From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.com>
Cc: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Martin Wilck <mwilck@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] locks: avoid thundering-herd wake-ups
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 16:09:12 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180808200912.GE23873@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180808195445.GD23873@fieldses.org>
On Wed, Aug 08, 2018 at 03:54:45PM -0400, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 08, 2018 at 11:51:07AM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> > If you have a many-core machine, and have many threads all wanting to
> > briefly lock a give file (udev is known to do this), you can get quite
> > poor performance.
> >
> > When one thread releases a lock, it wakes up all other threads that
> > are waiting (classic thundering-herd) - one will get the lock and the
> > others go to sleep.
> > When you have few cores, this is not very noticeable: by the time the
> > 4th or 5th thread gets enough CPU time to try to claim the lock, the
> > earlier threads have claimed it, done what was needed, and released.
> > With 50+ cores, the contention can easily be measured.
> >
> > This patchset creates a tree of pending lock request in which siblings
> > don't conflict and each lock request does conflict with its parent.
> > When a lock is released, only requests which don't conflict with each
> > other a woken.
>
> Are you sure you aren't depending on the (incorrect) assumption that "X
> blocks Y" is a transitive relation?
>
> OK I should be able to answer that question myself, my patience for
> code-reading is at a real low this afternoon....
In other words, is there the possibility of a tree of, say, exclusive
locks with (offset, length) like:
(0, 2) waiting on (1, 2) waiting on (2, 2) waiting on (0, 4)
and when waking (0, 4) you could wake up (2, 2) but not (0, 2), leaving
a process waiting without there being an actual conflict.
--b.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-08-08 22:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-08-08 1:51 [PATCH 0/4] locks: avoid thundering-herd wake-ups NeilBrown
2018-08-08 1:51 ` [PATCH 2/4] fs/locks: allow a lock request to block other requests NeilBrown
2018-08-08 1:51 ` [PATCH 3/4] fs/locks: change all *_conflict() functions to return bool NeilBrown
2018-08-08 1:51 ` [PATCH 1/4] fs/locks: rename some lists and pointers NeilBrown
2018-08-08 10:47 ` Jeff Layton
2018-08-08 19:07 ` J. Bruce Fields
2018-08-08 1:51 ` [PATCH 4/4] fs/locks: create a tree of dependent requests NeilBrown
2018-08-08 16:47 ` [PATCH 0/4] locks: avoid thundering-herd wake-ups Jeff Layton
2018-08-08 18:29 ` J. Bruce Fields
2018-08-09 0:58 ` NeilBrown
2018-08-20 11:02 ` Martin Wilck
2018-08-20 20:02 ` J. Bruce Fields
2018-08-20 20:06 ` Martin Wilck
2018-08-08 19:54 ` J. Bruce Fields
2018-08-08 20:09 ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2018-08-08 21:15 ` Frank Filz
2018-08-08 22:34 ` NeilBrown
2018-08-08 21:28 ` J. Bruce Fields
2018-08-08 22:39 ` NeilBrown
2018-08-08 22:50 ` Jeff Layton
2018-08-08 23:34 ` Frank Filz
2018-08-09 2:52 ` NeilBrown
2018-08-09 13:00 ` J. Bruce Fields
2018-08-09 14:49 ` Jeff Layton
2018-08-09 23:56 ` NeilBrown
2018-08-10 1:05 ` J. Bruce Fields
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20180808200912.GE23873@fieldses.org \
--to=bfields@fieldses.org \
--cc=jlayton@kernel.org \
--cc=linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=mwilck@suse.de \
--cc=neilb@suse.com \
--cc=viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.