From: Joel Brobecker <brobecker@adacore.com>
To: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>
Cc: Paul Koning <paulkoning@comcast.net>,
"Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@linux-mips.org>,
Cary Coutant <ccoutant@gmail.com>, Alan Modra <amodra@gmail.com>,
Binutils <binutils@sourceware.org>,
The development of GNU GRUB <grub-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Recent removal of a.out and COFF support for sparc
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 14:53:34 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180808215334.GO2432@adacore.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e24daec4-29df-6e60-1b9b-5c79abe219d8@physik.fu-berlin.de>
> > There are also targets that do not support ELF. And I know of no plans to remove those targets, or to remove the a.out support they rely on. I'm maintainer for one of them.
>
> The SPARC OBP firmware is a target that does not support ELF which is why
> it is no longer possible to build binaries for this target despite being
> it an actively used target.
>
> > Nor are there plans to trim the target set of gcc down to "current mainstream targets", whatever that might mean.
>
> Well, yes, I just linked one of those gcc targets - the e500 target - earlier
> today. The m68k target in gcc is also constantly under threat because of the
> planned cc0 removal. Both the e500 and the m68k targets in gcc are actively
> used. The m68k target is still very popular despite its age.
These targets are actively used -- I get that. However, it is only a part
of the equation. What you are asking is that "someone" who does not have
a stake on these targets to bear the cost of maintaining those targets
alive. No matter how active the users are on that target, if no one
steps up to maintain them, these targets become a burden to the rest
of the community.
I don't think you have much chances of getting that decision to be
reverted by arguing how used the target was, simply because it doesn't
address the concern of resource drain. The only way I see it being
reversed is if someone shows that they are capable of maintaining
the target and commits to it.
--
Joel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-08-08 21:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-08-07 10:51 Recent removal of a.out and COFF support for sparc John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-08-07 12:58 ` Gunther Nikl
2018-08-07 15:04 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2018-08-07 15:16 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-08-07 15:56 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-08-08 1:55 ` Alan Modra
2018-08-08 9:07 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-08-08 13:16 ` Alan Modra
2018-08-08 13:45 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-08-08 13:54 ` Joel Brobecker
2018-08-08 14:03 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-08-08 14:20 ` Joel Brobecker
2018-08-08 15:15 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-08-08 14:39 ` Cary Coutant
2018-08-08 14:41 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-08-08 17:08 ` Cary Coutant
2018-08-08 18:11 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-08-08 18:25 ` Andreas Schwab
2018-08-08 18:27 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2018-08-08 18:30 ` Paul Koning
2018-08-08 21:26 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-08-08 21:23 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-08-08 21:27 ` Paul Koning
2018-08-08 21:35 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-08-08 21:53 ` Joel Brobecker [this message]
2018-08-09 0:03 ` Paul Koning
2018-08-09 3:43 ` Jeff Law
2018-08-08 21:32 ` Andrew Pinski
2018-08-09 12:34 ` Michael Matz
2018-08-08 10:59 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2018-08-08 13:34 ` Alan Modra
2018-08-08 18:14 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2018-08-10 9:57 ` Jose E. Marchesi
2018-08-10 10:12 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-08-08 15:07 ` Michael Matz
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