From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_MUTT autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B69FC433F4 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 18:24:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83DF2064E for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 18:24:51 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org E83DF2064E Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=linuxfoundation.org Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727651AbeHXWAf (ORCPT ); Fri, 24 Aug 2018 18:00:35 -0400 Received: from mail.linuxfoundation.org ([140.211.169.12]:50454 "EHLO mail.linuxfoundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726901AbeHXWAe (ORCPT ); Fri, 24 Aug 2018 18:00:34 -0400 Received: from localhost (5355525A.cm-6-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl [83.85.82.90]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7A271DBE; Fri, 24 Aug 2018 18:24:48 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 20:24:45 +0200 From: Greg KH To: Ben Hutchings Cc: Rodrigo Vivi , stable@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Current LTS and their EOL Message-ID: <20180824182445.GA8702@kroah.com> References: <20180817154006.GA3725@intel.com> <20180817161727.GA24945@kroah.com> <7b13f62636d1f0547287cfe0a6135651eba194c1.camel@decadent.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7b13f62636d1f0547287cfe0a6135651eba194c1.camel@decadent.org.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 07:52:58PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Fri, 2018-08-17 at 23:48 +0100, Greg KH wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 08:40:06AM -0700, Rodrigo Vivi wrote: > > > Hi Greg, Ben, and all > > > > > > Is https://www.kernel.org/category/releases.html updated in terms of EOL? > > > > As of right now, for the kernels I maintain, yes, it is correct. > > > > > Some news out of Linaro conference [2] generated a lot of doubts and questions > > > around. > > > > > > Specially because on the way it was stated by the news 3.16 wouldn't be active > > > anymore. So I'm not sure about the news, but I'd like confirmation from you about > > > expected EOL. > > > > Linaro has nothing to do with the 3.16 kernel, so why are you confusing > > that with what was announced at that conference, which was about the 4.4 > > kernel tree? > > The article says that other longterm branches are only supported for 2 > years - which has been your usual practice, but obviously doesn't > reflect what all stable maintainers have done. > > I try to ensure that every stable branch used in a Debian release is > maintained for the lifetime of that Debian release. That means 5-6 > years after the initial release of the kernel version. So far that has > included 2.6.32 (maintained by Willy Tarreau), 3.2 and 3.16 (maintained > by me). > > In the latest release we used Linux 4.9 which currently has a stated > EOL of 2019. But I'm prepared to take on maintenance from that point > until June 2022. Greg, is that OK with you and should the EOL be > updated on that basis? Thanks a lot for the offer, but I can handle 4.9 until 2023 now, and I've updated kernel.org with the new dates to reflect this. I can always use help though, if you want to make sure I don't miss any patches that Debian specifically needs. thanks, greg k-h