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From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
	<ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Bug-introducing patches
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2018 23:12:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180907211209.GA23419@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180907201224.GD25756@kroah.com>

On Fri, Sep 07, 2018 at 10:12:24PM +0200, Greg KH wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 06, 2018 at 09:09:31PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > On Fri, 7 Sep 2018 00:51:42 +0000
> > Sasha Levin <Alexander.Levin@microsoft.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Assuming you've read the original mail, it appears that most parties who
> > > participated in the discussion agreed that there's an issue where
> > > patches that go in during (late) -rc cycles seems to be less tested and
> > > are buggier than they should be.
> > > 
> > > Most of that thread discussed possible solutions such as:
> > > 
> > >  - Not taking non-critical patches past -rcX (-rc4 seemed to be a
> > >    popular one).
> > >  - -rc patches must fix something introduced in the current merge
> > >    window. Patches fixing anything older should go in the next merge
> > >    window.
> > 
> > Interesting, because this is exactly what Linus blew up about that made
> > headlines and a loss of a kernel developer 5 years ago:
> > 
> >   https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/1373593870.17876.70.camel@gandalf.local.home/T/#mb7018718ce288b55fe041778721004cd62cd00a1
> 
> And it turns out that today I am feeling the same way again as I said so
> here:
> 	https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20130711214830.611455274@linuxfoundation.org/
> 
> Looking at the patches in this -rc1 merge window that were marked for
> stable, and some of the dates of them (really old for some subsystems),
> it makes me "wonder" why they were postponed so for -rc1, and didn't go
> into the -final release.

Ok, my mistake, I was looking at stuff that hit between -rc1 and -rc2 as
well as -rc1 patches, so I might be totally wrong here.  It just "feels"
a little odd that some of those patches had such "old" dates on them...

Anyway, no rant from me at the moment :)

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-07 21:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 138+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-04 20:16 [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Bug-introducing patches Sasha Levin
2018-09-04 20:53 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-09-05 14:17   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-09-07  0:51     ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-07  1:09       ` Steven Rostedt
2018-09-07 20:12         ` Greg KH
2018-09-07 21:12           ` Greg KH [this message]
2018-09-07  1:09       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-09-07  1:49         ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-07  2:31           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-09-07  2:45             ` Steven Rostedt
2018-09-07  3:43               ` Linus Torvalds
2018-09-07  8:52                 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-09-07  8:40               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-09-07  9:07                 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-09-07  9:28                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-09-07 17:05                   ` Olof Johansson
2018-09-07 14:54             ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-07 15:52               ` Linus Torvalds
2018-09-07 16:17                 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-09-07 21:39                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-09 12:50                   ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-09-10 20:05                     ` Tony Lindgren
2018-09-10 19:43                 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-10 20:45                   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-09-10 21:20                     ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-10 21:46                       ` Steven Rostedt
2018-09-10 23:03                         ` Eduardo Valentin
2018-09-10 23:13                           ` Steven Rostedt
2018-09-11 15:42                             ` Steven Rostedt
2018-09-11 17:40                               ` Tony Lindgren
2018-09-11 17:47                                 ` James Bottomley
2018-09-11 18:12                                   ` Eduardo Valentin
2018-09-11 18:17                                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-09-12 15:15                                       ` Eduardo Valentin
2018-09-11 18:19                                     ` James Bottomley
2018-09-12 15:17                                       ` Eduardo Valentin
2018-09-11 18:39                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-09-11 20:09                                     ` James Bottomley
2018-09-11 20:31                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2018-09-11 22:53                                         ` James Bottomley
2018-09-11 23:04                                           ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-11 23:11                                             ` James Bottomley
2018-09-11 23:20                                               ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-12 15:41                                                 ` Eduardo Valentin
2018-09-11 23:22                                           ` Tony Lindgren
2018-09-11 23:29                                             ` James Bottomley
2018-09-12 11:55                                               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-09-12 12:03                                                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-09-12 12:29                                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-12 12:53                                                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-09-12 13:10                                                       ` Alexandre Belloni
2018-09-12 13:30                                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-12 23:16                                                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-09-12 14:11                                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-19  8:26                                                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-09-20  9:02                                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-09-20 10:10                                                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-09-20 11:00                                                               ` Daniel Vetter
2018-09-20 11:08                                                                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-09-20 11:49                                                                   ` Daniel Vetter
2018-09-12 12:36                                                 ` James Bottomley
2018-09-12 13:38                                                   ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-12 13:59                                                     ` Tony Lindgren
2018-09-12 10:04                                             ` Mark Brown
2018-09-12 20:24                                           ` Steven Rostedt
2018-09-12 20:29                                             ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-13  0:19                                             ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-09-13 11:39                                               ` Mark Brown
2018-09-19  6:27                                                 ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-09-19 17:24                                                   ` Mark Brown
2018-09-19 21:42                                                     ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-09-11  0:49                           ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-09-11  1:01                             ` Al Viro
2018-09-11  0:47                         ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-09-11 17:35                           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-09-11  0:43                       ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-09-11 16:49                         ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-11 17:47                           ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-11 11:18                       ` Mark Brown
2018-09-11 17:02                         ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-11 17:12                           ` Jani Nikula
2018-09-11 17:31                             ` Mark Brown
2018-09-11 17:41                               ` Daniel Vetter
2018-09-11 18:54                                 ` Mark Brown
2018-09-11 18:03                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-09-11 17:22                           ` James Bottomley
2018-09-11 17:56                             ` Mark Brown
2018-09-11 18:00                               ` James Bottomley
2018-09-11 18:16                                 ` Mark Brown
2018-09-11 18:07                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-09-12  9:09                             ` Dan Carpenter
2018-09-11 17:26                           ` Mark Brown
2018-09-11 18:45                           ` Steven Rostedt
2018-09-11 18:57                             ` Daniel Vetter
2018-09-11 20:15                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-12  9:03                           ` Dan Carpenter
2018-09-10 23:01                     ` Eduardo Valentin
2018-09-10 23:12                       ` Steven Rostedt
2018-09-10 23:32                         ` Eduardo Valentin
2018-09-10 23:38                           ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-10 23:38                     ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-07  2:33           ` Steven Rostedt
2018-09-07  2:52           ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-07 14:37             ` Laura Abbott
2018-09-07 15:06               ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-07 15:54                 ` Laura Abbott
2018-09-07 16:09                   ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-07 20:23                     ` Greg KH
2018-09-07 21:13                       ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-07 22:27                         ` Linus Torvalds
2018-09-07 22:43                           ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-07 22:53                             ` Linus Torvalds
2018-09-07 22:57                               ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-07 23:52                                 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-08 16:33                                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-09-08 18:35                                   ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-10 13:47                                     ` Mark Brown
2018-09-09  4:36                                   ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-10 16:20                             ` Dan Rue
2018-09-07 21:32                 ` Dan Carpenter
2018-09-07 21:43                   ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-08 13:20                     ` Dan Carpenter
2018-09-10  8:23                     ` Jan Kara
2018-09-10  7:53                   ` Jan Kara
2018-09-07  3:38           ` Al Viro
2018-09-07  4:27           ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-09-07  5:45             ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-09-07  9:13             ` Daniel Vetter
2018-09-07 11:32               ` Mark Brown
2018-09-07 21:06               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-08  9:44                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-09-08 11:48                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-09 14:26                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-09-10 22:14                       ` Eduardo Valentin
2018-09-07 14:56             ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-07 15:07               ` Jens Axboe
2018-09-07 20:58                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab

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