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From: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
To: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Cc: libvir-list@redhat.com, drjones@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 1/2] vl.c deprecate incorrect CPUs topology
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:15:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180912181537.06bcd7f4@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180910174923.GE12698@habkost.net>

On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 14:49:23 -0300
Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 06, 2018 at 10:02:13AM +0200, Igor Mammedov wrote:
> > On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 10:45:12 -0300
> > Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> wrote:
> >   
> > > On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 11:25:11AM +0200, Igor Mammedov wrote:  
> > > > On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 23:12:55 -0300
> > > > Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > >     
> > > > > On Tue, Sep 04, 2018 at 03:22:35PM +0200, Igor Mammedov wrote:    
> > > > > > -smp [cpus],sockets/cores/threads[,maxcpus] should describe topology
> > > > > > so that total number of logical CPUs [sockets * cores * threads]
> > > > > > would be equal to [maxcpus], however historically we didn't have
> > > > > > such check in QEMU and it is possible to start VM with an invalid
> > > > > > topology.
> > > > > > Deprecate invalid options combination so we can make sure that
> > > > > > the topology VM started with is always correct in the future.
> > > > > > Users with an invalid sockets/cores/threads/maxcpus values should
> > > > > > fix their CLI to make sure that
> > > > > >    [sockets * cores * threads] == [maxcpus]
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > > v5:
> > > > > >   - extend deprecation doc, adding that maxcpus should be multiple of
> > > > > >     present on CLI [sockets/cores/threads] options
> > > > > >     (Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>)
> > > > > > v4:
> > > > > >   - missed dot comment, fix it with s/./,/ (Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>)
> > > > > > v3:
> > > > > >   - more spelling fixes (Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>)
> > > > > >   - place deprecation check after (sockets * cores * threads > max_cpus) check
> > > > > >     (Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>)
> > > > > > v2:
> > > > > >   - spelling&&co fixes (Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>)
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > >  qemu-deprecated.texi | 19 +++++++++++++++++++
> > > > > >  vl.c                 |  7 +++++++
> > > > > >  2 files changed, 26 insertions(+)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > diff --git a/qemu-deprecated.texi b/qemu-deprecated.texi
> > > > > > index 87212b6..827c3ce 100644
> > > > > > --- a/qemu-deprecated.texi
> > > > > > +++ b/qemu-deprecated.texi
> > > > > > @@ -159,6 +159,25 @@ The 'file' driver for drives is no longer appropriate for character or host
> > > > > >  devices and will only accept regular files (S_IFREG). The correct driver
> > > > > >  for these file types is 'host_cdrom' or 'host_device' as appropriate.
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > +@subsection -smp X,[socket=a,core=b,thread=c],maxcpus=Y (since 3.1)    
> > > > > 
> > > > > Minor: I suggest using @var markup, or maybe just use
> > > > > "-smp (invalid topologies) (since 3.1)" as subsection title for simplicity?
> > > > >     
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +CPU topology properties should describe whole machine topology including
> > > > > > +possible CPUs, but historically it was possible to start QEMU with
> > > > > > +an incorrect topology where
> > > > > > +  sockets * cores * threads >= X && X < maxcpus    
> > > > > 
> > > > > Minor: this line formatting is lost on the HTML output.  I
> > > > > suggest using @var and/or @math.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Minor: I suggest not using C syntax.
> > > > > 
> > > > > i.e. use something like:
> > > > > 
> > > > >   @math{@var{n} <= @var{sockets} * @var{cores} * @var{threads} < @var{maxcpus}},
> > > > >     
> > > > > > +which could lead to an incorrect topology enumeration by the guest.
> > > > > > +Support for invalid topologies will be removed, the user must ensure
> > > > > > +topologies described with -smp include all possible cpus, i.e.
> > > > > > +  sockets * cores * threads == maxcpus    
> > > > > 
> > > > > Minor: same as above.  I suggest:
> > > > > 
> > > > >   @math{@var{sockets} * @var{cores} * @var{threads} = @var{maxcpus}}.
> > > > > 
> > > > >     
> > > > > > +Note: it's assumed that maxcpus value must be multiple of the topology
> > > > > > +options present on command line to avoid creating an invalid topology.
> > > > > > +If maxcpus isn't be multiple of present topology options then the condition
> > > > > > +(sockets * cores * threads == maxcpus) can't be satisfied and it will
> > > > > > +trigger deprecation warning which later will be converted to a error.
> > > > > > +If you get deprecation warning it's recommended to explicitly specify
> > > > > > +a correct topology to make warning go away and ensure that it will
> > > > > > +continue working in the future.    
> > > > > 
> > > > > I don't understand the purpose of the "Note:" section.  It seems to duplicate
> > > > > what was already said in the lines above it.  Can we just remove it?    
> > > > Well, didn't I say that no additional explanation needed in v4?
> > > > Note section was added per your suggestion to explicitly say that maxcpus
> > > > should be multiple of options present on CLI.    
> > > 
> > > You are right: I did ask for additional clarification on the
> > > documentation, because it was not clear that the warning can
> > > still appear even if some of the sockets/cores/threads options
> > > were omitted.  The note didn't make that clearer to me, though.  
> > I can respin if necessary (we are not in hurry so no need to merge
> > something that would be removed immediately).
> > Could you suggest a text for clarification for me to include on respin?  
> 
> I was planning to write a suggestion later, but I didn't want
> this series to be delayed because of me.  Just removing the
> existing "Notes:" section would be good enough to me.
> 
> Probably the right place to document the subtle details of the
> s/c/t/maxcpus requirements is the "-smp" section on
> qemu-options.hx, not qemu-deprecated.hx.
> 
> I was considering something like this:
> 
> Signed-off-by: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
> ---
> diff --git a/qemu-deprecated.texi b/qemu-deprecated.texi
> index 060e015be6..74f6a64b8b 100644
> --- a/qemu-deprecated.texi
> +++ b/qemu-deprecated.texi
> @@ -139,16 +139,20 @@ The 'file' driver for drives is no longer appropriate for character or host
>  devices and will only accept regular files (S_IFREG). The correct driver
>  for these file types is 'host_cdrom' or 'host_device' as appropriate.
>  
> -@subsection -smp X,[socket=a,core=b,thread=c],maxcpus=Y (since 3.1)
> +@subsection -smp (invalid topologies) (since 3.1)
>  
>  CPU topology properties should describe whole machine topology including
> -possible CPUs, but historically it was possible to start QEMU with
> +possible CPUs.  In other words: @var{maxcpus} should be equal to
> +@math{@var{sockets} * @var{cores} * @var{threads}}.
> +
> +However, historically it was possible to start QEMU with
>  an incorrect topology where
> -  sockets * cores * threads >= X && X < maxcpus
> +@math{@var{n} <= @var{sockets} * @var{cores} * @var{threads} < @var{maxcpus}},
>  which could lead to an incorrect topology enumeration by the guest.
>  Support for invalid topologies will be removed, the user must ensure
>  topologies described with -smp include all possible cpus, i.e.
> -  sockets * cores * threads == maxcpus
> +@math{@var{sockets} * @var{cores} * @var{threads} = @var{maxcpus}}.
> +
Thanks,
suggestions taken in account and I'll drop Note section

>  @section QEMU Machine Protocol (QMP) commands
>  
> diff --git a/qemu-options.hx b/qemu-options.hx
> index 654ef484d9..2afa271570 100644
> --- a/qemu-options.hx
> +++ b/qemu-options.hx
> @@ -155,8 +155,13 @@ to 4.
>  For the PC target, the number of @var{cores} per socket, the number
>  of @var{threads} per cores and the total number of @var{sockets} can be
>  specified. Missing values will be computed. If any on the three values is
> -given, the total number of CPUs @var{n} can be omitted. @var{maxcpus}
> -specifies the maximum number of hotpluggable CPUs.
> +given, the total number of CPUs @var{n} can be omitted.
> +
> +@var{maxcpus} specifies the maximum number of hotpluggable CPUs
> +and should be equal to @math{@var{sockets} * @var{cores} * @var{threads}}
> +(even if @var{sockets}, @var{cores}, or @var{threads} is omitted
> +and computed automatically).
Options doc I've left out, it probably should be separate patch.

>  ETEXI
>  
>  DEF("numa", HAS_ARG, QEMU_OPTION_numa,
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-09-12 16:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-04 13:22 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 0/2] deprecate incorrect CPUs topology Igor Mammedov
2018-09-04 13:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 1/2] vl.c " Igor Mammedov
2018-09-04 15:10   ` Andrew Jones
2018-09-04 15:30   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 " Igor Mammedov
2018-09-05  2:12   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 " Eduardo Habkost
2018-09-05  9:25     ` Igor Mammedov
2018-09-05 13:45       ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-09-06  8:02         ` Igor Mammedov
2018-09-10 17:49           ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-09-10 18:03             ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Eric Blake
2018-09-12 16:15             ` Igor Mammedov [this message]
2018-09-10 17:58   ` Eric Blake
2018-09-04 13:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 2/2] vl:c: make sure that sockets are calculated correctly in '-smp X' case Igor Mammedov
2018-09-04 15:18   ` Andrew Jones
2018-09-05  1:40     ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-09-05  9:42       ` Igor Mammedov

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