From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D2D33D4C for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 22:16:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay10.mail.gandi.net (relay10.mail.gandi.net [217.70.178.230]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E983775 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 22:16:27 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 15:16:12 -0700 From: Josh Triplett To: Frank Rowand Message-ID: <20181010221611.GA5711@localhost> References: <20181007085102.17795-1-geert@linux-m68k.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: James Bottomley , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH] code-of-conduct: Remove explicit list of discrimination factors List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 01:55:04PM -0700, Frank Rowand wrote: > On 10/07/18 01:51, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > Providing an explicit list of discrimination factors may give the false > > impression that discrimination based on other unlisted factors would be > > allowed. > > > > Avoid any ambiguity by removing the list, to ensure "a harassment-free > > experience for everyone", period. [...] > > diff --git a/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst b/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst > > index ab7c24b5478c6b30..e472c9f86ff00b34 100644 > > --- a/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst > > +++ b/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst > > @@ -6,10 +6,7 @@ Our Pledge > > > > In the interest of fostering an open and welcoming environment, we as > > contributors and maintainers pledge to making participation in our project and > > -our community a harassment-free experience for everyone, regardless of age, body > > -size, disability, ethnicity, sex characteristics, gender identity and > > -expression, level of experience, education, socio-economic status, nationality, > > -personal appearance, race, religion, or sexual identity and orientation. > > +our community a harassment-free experience for everyone. > > > > Our Standards > > ============= > > > > > The words removed by this patch are a political statement. Choosing not to say those words is a political statement. See the original commit message for the code of conduct: "Explicit guidelines have demonstrated success in other projects and other areas of the kernel." And see the FAQ entry at https://www.contributor-covenant.org/faq for "The Contributor Covenant explicitly lists a set of protected classes; does this make it acceptable to discriminate or make others feel unwelcome based on other factors?" (I wrote that FAQ entry and submitted it upstream, where it was enthusiastically merged.) From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.2 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, INCLUDES_PATCH,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED,USER_AGENT_MUTT autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E5FFC43441 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 22:16:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F9202086E for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 22:16:30 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 3F9202086E Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=joshtriplett.org Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726036AbeJKFkh (ORCPT ); Thu, 11 Oct 2018 01:40:37 -0400 Received: from relay10.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.230]:60311 "EHLO relay10.mail.gandi.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725968AbeJKFkh (ORCPT ); Thu, 11 Oct 2018 01:40:37 -0400 Received: from localhost (jfdmzpr03-ext.jf.intel.com [134.134.139.72]) (Authenticated sender: josh@joshtriplett.org) by relay10.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CFF3B240002; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 22:16:20 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 15:16:12 -0700 From: Josh Triplett To: Frank Rowand Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven , ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, James Bottomley , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH] code-of-conduct: Remove explicit list of discrimination factors Message-ID: <20181010221611.GA5711@localhost> References: <20181007085102.17795-1-geert@linux-m68k.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 01:55:04PM -0700, Frank Rowand wrote: > On 10/07/18 01:51, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > Providing an explicit list of discrimination factors may give the false > > impression that discrimination based on other unlisted factors would be > > allowed. > > > > Avoid any ambiguity by removing the list, to ensure "a harassment-free > > experience for everyone", period. [...] > > diff --git a/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst b/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst > > index ab7c24b5478c6b30..e472c9f86ff00b34 100644 > > --- a/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst > > +++ b/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst > > @@ -6,10 +6,7 @@ Our Pledge > > > > In the interest of fostering an open and welcoming environment, we as > > contributors and maintainers pledge to making participation in our project and > > -our community a harassment-free experience for everyone, regardless of age, body > > -size, disability, ethnicity, sex characteristics, gender identity and > > -expression, level of experience, education, socio-economic status, nationality, > > -personal appearance, race, religion, or sexual identity and orientation. > > +our community a harassment-free experience for everyone. > > > > Our Standards > > ============= > > > > > The words removed by this patch are a political statement. Choosing not to say those words is a political statement. See the original commit message for the code of conduct: "Explicit guidelines have demonstrated success in other projects and other areas of the kernel." And see the FAQ entry at https://www.contributor-covenant.org/faq for "The Contributor Covenant explicitly lists a set of protected classes; does this make it acceptable to discriminate or make others feel unwelcome based on other factors?" (I wrote that FAQ entry and submitted it upstream, where it was enthusiastically merged.)