Re: [virtio-comment] Re: PCI cap for larger offsets/lengths

["Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>]

On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 05:18:37PM +0000, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> * Michael S. Tsirkin (mst@redhat.com) wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 03:51:45PM +0100, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> > >   Hi,
> > > 
> > > > > So, I'm wondering whenever it makes sense to just do the same for your
> > > > > device.  Just use one pci bar as shared memory umbrella, specify that
> > > > > one using the virtio vendor cap, then have sub-regions within that bar
> > > > > for the various regions you have.  Manage them dynamically (using
> > > > > device-specific virtio commands) or just have a static configuration (in
> > > > > device-specific config space).
> > > > 
> > > > Ours are static subdivisions; so it felt easier to declare them; it's a
> > > > shame to make that device specific.
> > > 
> > > Shared memory handling is device specific anyway, so I fail to see why
> > > this is a problem.  Or do you want place virtio queues there (which
> > > could be common ground for multiple device types) ?
> > > 
> > > > > That avoids the problem with multiple capabilities of the same kind, and
> > > > > it also avoids exhausting the cap IDs quicky if every device defines
> > > > > their own VIRTIO_FOO_DEVICE_PCI_SHMCAP_ID_BAR_REGION.
> > > > 
> > > > Is having multiple capabilities of the same type actually a problem, or
> > > > is it just historical in the defitinition of virtio?
> > > 
> > > I think the reason is that you can in theory have the same region twice,
> > > once in an IO bar and once in an MMIO bar, and then the guest could
> > > prefer the IO bar if possible and use the MMIO bar otherwise (PCIe slot
> > > without IO address window for example).  I think that was never actually
> > > done in practice,
> > 
> > There's an option to enable that for AMD CPUs where MMIO
> > faults are slower than on intel CPUs.
> > 
> > > and for (prefetchable) memory bars it doesn't make
> > > sense at all.  So that would unlikely be a problem in practice.
> > > 
> > > Running out of capability IDs could become a real problem though.
> > > 
> > > cheers,
> > >   Gerd
> > 
> > We can always add more bits if we run out of these. there's
> > no real limit on capability size.
> 
> I thought it was defined as 8 bits by the capability-linked list
> structure in PCI?
> 
> Dave

Maybe I misunderstand. Don't you mean u8 cfg_type field type in struct
virtio_pci_cap? If so then what I was pointing out is that
if we ever need more than 256 types then we
can always have a special cfg_type value(s) meaning
"different format" and add more types this way.


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