From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, sweil@redhat.com, swhiteho@redhat.com,
stefanha@redhat.com, vgoyal@redhat.com, miklos@szeredi.hu
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/7] virtio-fs: shared file system for virtual machines3
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 13:52:03 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181212135203.GD2370@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181212123059.GD31033@redhat.com>
* Daniel P. Berrangé (berrange@redhat.com) wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 05:31:44PM +0000, Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git) wrote:
> > From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
> >
> > Hi,
> > This is the first RFC for the QEMU side of 'virtio-fs';
> > a new mechanism for mounting host directories into the guest
> > in a fast, consistent and secure manner. Our primary use
> > case is kata containers, but it should be usable in other scenarios
> > as well.
> >
> > There are corresponding patches being posted to Linux kernel,
> > libfuse and kata lists.
> >
> > For a fuller design description, and benchmark numbers, please see
> > Vivek's posting of the kernel set here:
> >
> > https://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=154446243024251&w=2
> >
> > We've got a small website with instructions on how to use it, here:
> >
> > https://virtio-fs.gitlab.io/
> >
> > and all the code is available on gitlab at:
> >
> > https://gitlab.com/virtio-fs
> >
> > QEMU's changes
> > --------------
> >
> > The QEMU changes are pretty small;
> >
> > There's a new vhost-user device, which is used to carry a stream of
> > FUSE messages to an external daemon that actually performs
> > all the file IO. The FUSE daemon is an external process in order to
> > achieve better isolation for security and resource control (e.g. number
> > of file descriptors) and also because it's cleaner than trying to
> > integrate libfuse into QEMU.
>
> Overall I like the virtio-fs architecture more than the virtio-vsock+NFS
> approach, as virtio-fs feels simpler and closer to virtio-9p with the
> latter's proxy backends.
>
> I never really liked the idea of having to mess around with the host
> NFS server to exposed filesystems to guests, as that's systemwide
> service. The ability to have an isolated virtio-fs backend process
> per filesystem share per guest is simpler from a mgmt pov.
>
> One think I would like to see though is a general purpose, production
> quality backend impl that is shipped by the QEMU project. It is fine
> if projects like Kata want to write a custom impl tailored to their
> specific needs, but I think QEMU should have something as standard that
> isn't just demoware.
Our patches sent to libfuse may provide that - after we tidy them up a
bit more; but it is the result of adding the fuse example code to qemu's
contrib vhost-user example code. Given that this is the intersection
of so many projects I'm not sure I care which project distributes a
working implementation.
Dave
> Regards,
> Daniel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-12-12 13:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-12-10 17:31 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/7] virtio-fs: shared file system for virtual machines3 Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-12-10 17:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 1/7] virtio: Add shared memory capability Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-12-10 21:03 ` Eric Blake
2018-12-11 10:24 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-12-10 17:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 2/7] virtio: add vhost-user-fs-pci device Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-12-10 17:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 3/7] virtio-fs: Add cache BAR Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-12-10 21:10 ` Eric Blake
2018-12-11 10:25 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-12-10 17:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 4/7] virtio-fs: Add vhost-user slave commands for mapping Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-12-10 17:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 5/7] virtio-fs: Fill in " Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-12-10 17:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 6/7] virtio-fs: Allow mapping of meta data version table Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-12-10 17:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 7/7] virtio-fs: Allow mapping of journal Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2018-12-10 21:12 ` Eric Blake
2018-12-11 10:34 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-12-10 20:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/7] virtio-fs: shared file system for virtual machines3 no-reply
2018-12-11 12:53 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-12-12 12:30 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-12-12 13:52 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2018-12-12 13:58 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-12-12 14:49 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-12-22 9:27 ` jiangyiwen
2018-12-26 19:08 ` Vivek Goyal
2019-01-08 6:08 ` jiangyiwen
2019-04-04 13:24 ` Greg Kurz
2019-04-05 8:59 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-04-05 8:59 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
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