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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	lizefan@huawei.com, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	axboe@kernel.dk, dennis@kernel.org,
	Dennis Zhou <dennisszhou@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	kernel-team@android.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 5/5] psi: introduce psi monitor
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 20:08:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190129190851.GA2961@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJuCfpGxtGHsow002nd8Ao8mo9MaZQqZau_NLTMrZ8=aypTkig@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 10:18:20AM -0800, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 4:38 AM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 01:15:18PM -0800, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> > > +                     atomic_set(&group->polling, polling);
> > > +                     /*
> > > +                      * Memory barrier is needed to order group->polling
> > > +                      * write before times[] read in collect_percpu_times()
> > > +                      */
> > > +                     smp_mb__after_atomic();
> >
> > That's broken, smp_mb__{before,after}_atomic() can only be used on
> > atomic RmW operations, something atomic_set() is _not_.
> 
> Oh, I didn't realize that. After reading the following example from
> atomic_ops.txt 

That document it woefully out of date (and I should double check, but I
think we can actually delete it now). Please see
Documentation/atomic_t.txt

> I was under impression that smp_mb__after_atomic()
> would make changes done by atomic_set() visible:
> 
> /* All memory operations before this call will
> * be globally visible before the clear_bit().
> */
> smp_mb__before_atomic();
> clear_bit( ... );
> /* The clear_bit() will be visible before all
> * subsequent memory operations.
> */
> smp_mb__after_atomic();
> 
> but I'm probably missing something. Is there a more detailed
> description of these rules anywhere else?

See atomic_t.txt; but the difference is that clear_bit() is a RmW, while
atomic_set() is just a plain store.

> Meanwhile I'll change smp_mb__after_atomic() into smp_mb(). Would that
> fix the ordering?

It would work here; but I'm still trying to actually understand all
this. So while the detail would be fine, I'm not ready to judge the
over-all thing.

      parent reply	other threads:[~2019-01-29 19:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-24 21:15 [PATCH v3 0/5] psi: pressure stall monitors v3 Suren Baghdasaryan
2019-01-24 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] fs: kernfs: add poll file operation Suren Baghdasaryan
2019-01-24 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] kernel: cgroup: " Suren Baghdasaryan
2019-01-24 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] psi: introduce state_mask to represent stalled psi states Suren Baghdasaryan
2019-01-28 21:22   ` Johannes Weiner
2019-01-24 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] psi: rename psi fields in preparation for psi trigger addition Suren Baghdasaryan
2019-01-28 21:23   ` Johannes Weiner
2019-01-24 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] psi: introduce psi monitor Suren Baghdasaryan
2019-01-28 21:26   ` Johannes Weiner
2019-01-28 23:53   ` Minchan Kim
2019-01-29  1:52     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2019-01-29 18:35     ` Johannes Weiner
2019-01-29 10:44   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-29 18:05     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2019-01-29 12:38   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-29 15:16     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-29 18:25       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2019-01-29 18:18     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2019-01-29 18:31       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2019-01-29 19:08       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]

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