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From: Jonathan Cameron <jonathan.cameron@huawei.com>
To: Phil Reid <preid@electromag.com.au>
Cc: Alexandru Ardelean <ardeleanalex@gmail.com>,
	Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>, <knaack.h@gmx.de>,
	<lars@metafoo.de>, "Peter Meerwald-Stadler" <pmeerw@pmeerw.net>,
	<linux-iio@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] iio: core: Improve precision of __iio_format_value for FRACTIONAL values
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 11:22:29 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190201112229.00000201@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b677dff8-11f5-abcd-6277-21490ce95a3b@electromag.com.au>

On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 13:47:57 +0800
Phil Reid <preid@electromag.com.au> wrote:

> On 31/01/2019 9:35 pm, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> > On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 17:11:25 +0800
> > Phil Reid <preid@electromag.com.au> wrote:
> >   
> >> G'day Alex,
> >>
> >> On 29/01/2019 4:32 pm, Alexandru Ardelean wrote:  
> >>> On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 8:28 AM Phil Reid <preid@electromag.com.au> wrote:  
> >>>>
> >>>> Currently FRACTIONAL values are outputed with 9 digits after the decimal
> >>>> place. This is not always sufficient to resolve the raw value with 1 bit.
> >>>> Output FRACTIONAL values to 15 decimal places of precision, regardless
> >>>> of the number of leading zeros.
> >>>>
> >>>> Currently for a 2.5V ref with 24 bits of precision the code outputs only
> >>>> to 9 decimal places.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cur: 0.00014901100000000000 * 16777216 = 2499.989733
> >>>> New: 0.00014901161193847600 * 16777216 = 2500.000000
> >>>> Signed-off-by: Phil Reid <preid@electromag.com.au>
> >>>> ---
> >>>>
> >>>> Notes:
> >>>>       Alternatively I could add additonal FRACTIONAL types that select the new
> >>>>       behaviour to prevent any possible regressions.
> >>>>
> >>>>    drivers/iio/industrialio-core.c | 55 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------
> >>>>    1 file changed, 46 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
> >>>>
> >>>> diff --git a/drivers/iio/industrialio-core.c b/drivers/iio/industrialio-core.c
> >>>> index a062cfd..bd9da64 100644
> >>>> --- a/drivers/iio/industrialio-core.c
> >>>> +++ b/drivers/iio/industrialio-core.c
> >>>> @@ -571,11 +571,53 @@ int of_iio_read_mount_matrix(const struct device *dev,
> >>>>    #endif
> >>>>    EXPORT_SYMBOL(of_iio_read_mount_matrix);
> >>>>
> >>>> +static ssize_t __iio_format_div_prec(char *buf, unsigned int len, s64 x, s32 y)
> >>>> +{
> >>>> +       unsigned int prec = 0;
> >>>> +       unsigned int idx = 0;
> >>>> +       s64 d;
> >>>> +
> >>>> +       if (!len)
> >>>> +               return 0;
> >>>> +
> >>>> +       if (!y)
> >>>> +               return snprintf(buf, len, "inf");
> >>>> +
> >>>> +       if (!x)
> >>>> +               return snprintf(buf, len, "0");
> >>>> +
> >>>> +       if (((x > 0) && (y < 0)) || ((x < 0) && (y > 0))) {
> >>>> +               buf[idx++] = '-';
> >>>> +               x = x > 0 ? x : -x;
> >>>> +               y = y > 0 ? y : -y;
> >>>> +       }
> >>>> +
> >>>> +       d = div64_s64(x, y);
> >>>> +       idx += snprintf(buf+idx, len-idx, "%d", (int)d);
> >>>> +       x = x - (y * d);
> >>>> +       if ((x != 0) && (idx < len-1)) {
> >>>> +               buf[idx++] = '.';
> >>>> +               x = x * 10;
> >>>> +               d = div64_s64(x, y);
> >>>> +
> >>>> +               while ((idx < len-1) && (prec < 15)) {
> >>>> +                       if (d || prec)
> >>>> +                               prec++;
> >>>> +                       buf[idx++] = '0' + (char)d;
> >>>> +                       x = x - (y * d);
> >>>> +                       if (!x)
> >>>> +                               break;
> >>>> +                       x = x * 10;
> >>>> +                       d = div64_s64(x, y);
> >>>> +               }
> >>>> +               buf[idx] = 0;
> >>>> +       }
> >>>> +       return idx;
> >>>> +}
> >>>> +
> >>>>    static ssize_t __iio_format_value(char *buf, size_t len, unsigned int type,
> >>>>                                     int size, const int *vals)
> >>>>    {
> >>>> -       unsigned long long tmp;
> >>>> -       int tmp0, tmp1;
> >>>>           bool scale_db = false;
> >>>>
> >>>>           switch (type) {
> >>>> @@ -598,14 +640,9 @@ static ssize_t __iio_format_value(char *buf, size_t len, unsigned int type,
> >>>>                   else
> >>>>                           return snprintf(buf, len, "%d.%09u", vals[0], vals[1]);
> >>>>           case IIO_VAL_FRACTIONAL:
> >>>> -               tmp = div_s64((s64)vals[0] * 1000000000LL, vals[1]);
> >>>> -               tmp1 = vals[1];
> >>>> -               tmp0 = (int)div_s64_rem(tmp, 1000000000, &tmp1);
> >>>> -               return snprintf(buf, len, "%d.%09u", tmp0, abs(tmp1));
> >>>> +               return __iio_format_div_prec(buf, len, vals[0], vals[1]);  
> >>>
> >>> Maybe I'm a bit naive, but I'm also a bit curious.
> >>> If you just bump the numbers here, would it work the same ?
> >>>
> >>> i.e.   10^9 -> 10^15 and "snprintf(buf, len, "%d.%15u", tmp0, abs(tmp1));"  
> >> I did look at that solution.
> >>
> >> But I was running into overflow issues (even with 64 bit numbers).
> >>
> >> eg: with a 2500 reference and 32 bits.
> >>
> >> 2500 * 10^15 = 2e+18 = 61 bits
> >> And the result of
> >> 2500 / 2^32 =  0.000000582076609
> >> Only provides 9 significant digits with 15 decimal places.
> >>
> >> I was looking to provide 15 significant digits to match a standard double
> >> precision floating point value.  
> > 
> > I'll ask the awkward engineering question.  Is this precision actually valid?
> > I.e. typical voltage references are +- 0.0x %
> > 
> > The fact we have a 32 bit ADC means you'll detect small changes, but I'm
> > dubious about whether the absolute value will ever be 'that good'.
> > 
> > If we are going to go out of way to support greater precision we need
> > a strong justification of why.
> > To take advantage of these high precision devices you need to take into
> > account non linear effects, temperature etc.  These will swamp (I think)
> > any effect of a lack of precision the scale value.
> >   
> 
> All valid points.
> 
> 9 signification digits is probably fine.
> However the current formatting doesn't always provide 9 significant digits.
> So I believe this can start to add significant error.

Agreed, we need to allow for smaller numbers, 10^-12 10^-15 etc perhaps
with formatting functions to match.

Should be a fairly small change I think and fits with the current scheme
(though obviously might confuse existing userspace - hopefully not!)

> 
> 
> Some typical ref voltages using 32 bit scale.
>          scale          iio scale    err               err%
> 2500  5.820766091E-07  0.000000582  -7.660913467E-11  -0.0132%
> 3000  6.984919310E-07  0.000000698  -4.919309616E-10  -0.0705%
> 3300  7.683411241E-07  0.000000768  -3.411240578E-10  -0.0444%
> 5000  1.164153218E-06  0.000001164  -1.532182693E-10  -0.0132%
> 
> Looking at other drivers they seem to adjust the scale figure based on gain
> selection as well. Is this expected?
> 
> If so when adding gain eg: x100

Interesting point.  A device with high variable gain should be changing
the type to best represent the 'scale'. 

> 
>        scale            iio scale     err              err%
> 2500  5.820766091E-09  0.000000005  -8.207660913E-10  -16%
> 3000  6.984919310E-09  0.000000006  -9.849193096E-10  -16%
> 3300  7.683411241E-09  0.000000007  -6.834112406E-10  -10%
> 5000  1.164153218E-08  0.000000011  -6.415321827E-10  -6%
> 
> The limited number of significant digits is swamping everything else.
> 
> even at 24bit with gain 1x00
> 
>        scale            iio scale     err              err%
> 2500  1.490116119E-06  0.000001490  -1.161193848E-10  -0.01%
> 3000  1.788139343E-06  0.000001788  -1.393432617E-10  -0.01%
> 3300  1.966953278E-06  0.000001966  -9.532775879E-10  -0.05%
> 5000  2.980232239E-06  0.000002980  -2.322387695E-10  -0.01%
> 
> 
> Similarly this while also affect the accuracy of values mapped thru the
> rescale driver.

Agreed, the rescale driver probably needs to be a bit more clever to
deal with large scale changes.

Jonathan



      reply	other threads:[~2019-02-01 11:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-29  6:26 [PATCH 1/1] iio: core: Improve precision of __iio_format_value for FRACTIONAL values Phil Reid
2019-01-29  8:32 ` Alexandru Ardelean
2019-01-29  9:11   ` Phil Reid
2019-01-31 13:35     ` Jonathan Cameron
2019-02-01  5:47       ` Phil Reid
2019-02-01 11:22         ` Jonathan Cameron [this message]

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