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From: Stefano Brivio <sbrivio@redhat.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Sabrina Dubroca <sd@queasysnail.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH iproute2 net-next v2 3/4] ss: Buffer raw fields first, then render them as a table
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 09:37:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190213093711.13ab560e@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <82f1bc98-df6d-2b0a-17e5-fa057563284e@gmail.com>

On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 16:42:04 -0800
Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com> wrote:

> I do not get it.
> 
> "ss -emoi " uses almost 1KB per socket.
> 
> 10,000,000 sockets -> we need about 10GB of memory  ???
> 
> This is a serious regression.

I guess this is rather subjective: the worst case I considered back then
was the output of 'ss -tei0' (less than 500 bytes) for one million
sockets, which gives 500M of memory, which should in turn be fine on a
machine handling one million sockets.

Now, if 'ss -emoi' on 10 million sockets is an actual use case (out of
curiosity: how are you going to process that output? Would JSON help?),
I see two easy options to solve this:

1. flush the output every time we reach a given buffer size (1M
   perhaps). This might make the resulting blocks slightly unaligned,
   with occasional loss of readability on lines occurring every 1k to
   10k sockets approximately, even though after 1k sockets column sizes
   won't change much (it looks anyway better than the original), and I
   don't expect anybody to actually scroll that output

2. add a switch for unbuffered output, but then you need to remember to
   pass it manually, and the whole output would be as bad as the
   original in case you need the switch.

I'd rather go with 1., it's easy to implement (we already have partial
flushing with '--events') and it looks like a good compromise on
usability. Thoughts?

-- 
Stefano

  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-13  8:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-12  0:46 [PATCH iproute2 net-next v2 0/4] Abstract columns, properly space and wrap fields Stefano Brivio
2017-12-12  0:46 ` [PATCH iproute2 net-next v2 1/4] ss: Replace printf() calls for "main" output by calls to helper Stefano Brivio
2017-12-12  0:46 ` [PATCH iproute2 net-next v2 2/4] ss: Introduce columns lightweight abstraction Stefano Brivio
2017-12-12  0:46 ` [PATCH iproute2 net-next v2 3/4] ss: Buffer raw fields first, then render them as a table Stefano Brivio
2019-02-13  0:42   ` Eric Dumazet
2019-02-13  8:37     ` Stefano Brivio [this message]
2019-02-13 16:51       ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-02-13 17:22         ` Stefano Brivio
2019-02-13 17:32           ` Eric Dumazet
2019-02-13 17:31       ` Eric Dumazet
2019-02-13 17:38         ` Stefano Brivio
2019-02-13 18:01           ` Eric Dumazet
2019-02-13 21:17         ` Stefano Brivio
2019-02-13 21:55           ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-02-13 22:20             ` Stefano Brivio
2019-02-13 23:39             ` Phil Sutter
2019-02-13 23:47               ` David Ahern
2017-12-12  0:46 ` [PATCH iproute2 net-next v2 4/4] ss: Implement automatic column width calculation Stefano Brivio
2017-12-12 20:13 ` [PATCH iproute2 net-next v2 0/4] Abstract columns, properly space and wrap fields Stephen Hemminger

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