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From: Andrea Parri <andrea.parri@amarulasolutions.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Jade Alglave <j.alglave@ucl.ac.uk>,
	Luc Maranget <luc.maranget@inria.fr>,
	Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com>,
	Daniel Lustig <dlustig@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] tools/memory-model: Remove (dep ; rfi) from ppo
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 12:21:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190222112128.GA7213@andrea> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190220132714.GI32494@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

> What I do object to is a model that's weaker than any possible sane
> hardware.

Not the first time I hear you calling this out.  And inevitably, every
time, other slogans come to my mind:  "C is not an assembly language",
"No features (ordering) without users", ...

For the record, I won't try to push this patch further; I also have no
plans to touch herd7 internals in order to add the ad-hoc flag for the
(dep ; rfi) thing.  (Maybe others will/can step in here.)

In the meantime, the hope (admittedly, probably vain) is that this RFC
could serve as a further warning or as a reference to those developers
who are quivering to use (dep ; rfi): enjoy it, be careful.

  Andrea

  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-22 11:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-19 22:57 [RFC PATCH] tools/memory-model: Remove (dep ; rfi) from ppo Andrea Parri
2019-02-20  2:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-02-20  9:26   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-20  9:57     ` Will Deacon
2019-02-20 13:17       ` Andrea Parri
2019-02-20 13:14     ` Andrea Parri
2019-02-20 13:27       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-22 11:21         ` Andrea Parri [this message]
2019-02-22 13:00           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-25 17:55             ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-02-26  9:21               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-26  9:30               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-26 10:45                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-26 11:21                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-26 11:25                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-26 11:30                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-26 11:38                         ` Borislav Petkov
2019-02-26 13:49                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-26 14:28                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-02-26 14:47                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-26 15:39                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-02-26 14:56                               ` Akira Yokosawa
2019-02-26 15:04                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-02-26 15:09                                   ` Akira Yokosawa
2019-02-26 15:04                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-06 15:46                                 ` Akira Yokosawa
2019-03-06 16:58                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-06 17:26                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-03-06 17:24                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-03-02 15:27                             ` Akira Yokosawa
2019-03-04 16:09                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-02-20 13:41       ` Will Deacon
2019-02-20 15:30         ` Alan Stern
2019-02-20 15:30           ` Alan Stern
2019-02-20 15:22 ` Alan Stern
2019-02-20 15:22   ` Alan Stern

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