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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
Cc: Jeremy Allison <jra@samba.org>,
	Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Volker.Lendecke@sernet.de, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	samba-technical@lists.samba.org,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	devel@lists.nfs-ganesha.org
Subject: Re: Better interop for NFS/SMB file share mode/reservation
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2019 10:11:50 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190306151150.GC2426@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190305214748.GD27437@fieldses.org>

On Tue, Mar 05, 2019 at 04:47:48PM -0500, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 04:06:52PM -0500, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> > After this:
> > 
> > 	https://marc.info/?l=linux-nfs&m=154966239918297&w=2
> > 
> > delegations would no longer conflict with opens from the same tgid.  So
> > if your threads all run in the same process and you're willing to manage
> > conflicts among your own clients, that should still allow you to do
> > multiple opens of the same file without giving up your lease/delegation.
> > 
> > I'd be curious to know whether that works with Samba's design.
> 
> Any idea whether that would work?
> 
> (Easy?  Impossible?  Possible, but realistically the changes required to
> Samba would be painful enough that it'd be unlikely to get done?)

Volker reminds me off-list that he'd like to see Ganesha and Samba work
out an API in userspace first before commiting to a user<->kernel API.

Jeff, wasn't there some work (on Ceph maybe?) on a userspace delegation
API?  Is that close to what's needed?

In any case, my immediate goal is just to get knfsd fixed, which doesn't
really commit us to anything--knfsd only needs kernel internal
interfaces.  But it'd be nice to have at least some idea if we're on the
right track, to save having to redo that work later.

--b.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-03-06 15:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-08 11:20 Better interop for NFS/SMB file share mode/reservation Amir Goldstein
2019-02-08 13:10 ` Jeff Layton
2019-02-08 14:45   ` Amir Goldstein
2019-02-08 15:50     ` J. Bruce Fields
2019-02-08 20:02       ` Amir Goldstein
2019-02-08 20:16         ` J. Bruce Fields
2019-02-08 20:31           ` Amir Goldstein
2019-02-14 20:51             ` J. Bruce Fields
2019-02-15  7:31               ` Amir Goldstein
2019-02-15 20:09                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2019-02-08 22:12         ` Jeremy Allison
2019-02-09  4:04           ` Amir Goldstein
2019-02-14 21:06             ` J. Bruce Fields
2019-03-05 21:47               ` J. Bruce Fields
2019-03-06  7:09                 ` Amir Goldstein
2019-03-06 15:17                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2019-03-06 15:37                     ` [NFS-Ganesha-Devel] " Frank Filz
2019-03-08 21:38                       ` 'J. Bruce Fields'
2019-03-08 21:53                         ` Frank Filz
2019-03-06 15:11                 ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2019-03-06 20:31                   ` Jeff Layton
2019-03-06 21:07                     ` Jeremy Allison
2019-03-06 21:25                       ` Ralph Böhme
2019-03-07 11:03                         ` Stefan Metzmacher
2019-03-07 16:47                           ` Simo
2019-04-25 18:11                           ` Amir Goldstein
2019-05-24  7:12                             ` Amir Goldstein
2019-05-24 13:15                               ` Ralph Boehme
2019-05-24 15:07                               ` J. Bruce Fields
2019-03-06 21:55                       ` Jeff Layton
2019-02-08 16:03     ` Jeff Layton
2019-02-08 16:28       ` Jeffrey Layton
     [not found]       ` <CAOQ4uxgQsRaEOxz1aYzP1_1fzRpQbOm2-wuzG=ABAphPB=7Mxg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]         ` <20190426140023.GB25827@fieldses.org>
     [not found]           ` <CAOQ4uxhuxoEsoBbvenJ8eLGstPc4AH-msrxDC-tBFRhvDxRSNg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]             ` <20190426145006.GD25827@fieldses.org>
     [not found]               ` <e69d149c80187b84833fec369ad8a51247871f26.camel@kernel.org>
2019-04-27 20:16                 ` Amir Goldstein
2019-04-28 12:09                   ` Jeff Layton
2019-04-28 13:45                     ` Amir Goldstein
2019-04-28 15:06                       ` Trond Myklebust
2019-04-28 22:00                         ` Amir Goldstein
2019-04-28 22:08                           ` Trond Myklebust
2019-04-28 22:33                             ` Amir Goldstein
2019-04-29  0:57                               ` Trond Myklebust
2019-04-29 11:42                                 ` Amir Goldstein
2019-04-29 13:10                                   ` Trond Myklebust
2019-04-29 20:29                                 ` Jeff Layton
2019-04-29 22:33                                   ` Pavel Shilovskiy
2019-04-30  0:31                                     ` Amir Goldstein
2019-04-30  8:12                                       ` Uri Simchoni
2019-04-30  9:22                                         ` Amir Goldstein
2019-02-11  5:31     ` ronnie sahlberg

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