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From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: Pekka Enberg <penberg@iki.fi>
Cc: Qian Cai <cai@lca.pw>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, cl@linux.com, mhocko@kernel.org,
	willy@infradead.org, penberg@kernel.org, rientjes@google.com,
	iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] kmemleak: survive in a low-memory situation
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2019 15:28:50 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190328152850.GE10283@arrakis.emea.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8e88b618-e774-de81-ca99-a8ee89f60b5a@iki.fi>

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 01:50:29PM +0200, Pekka Enberg wrote:
> On 27/03/2019 2.59, Qian Cai wrote:
> > > > Unless there is a brave soul to reimplement the kmemleak to embed it's
> > > > metadata into the tracked memory itself in a foreseeable future, this
> > > > provides a good balance between enabling kmemleak in a low-memory
> > > > situation and not introducing too much hackiness into the existing
> > > > code for now.
> 
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 08:05:31AM +0200, Pekka Enberg wrote:
> > > Unfortunately I am not that brave soul, but I'm wondering what the
> > > complication here is? It shouldn't be too hard to teach calculate_sizes() in
> > > SLUB about a new SLAB_KMEMLEAK flag that reserves spaces for the metadata.
> 
> On 28/03/2019 12.30, Catalin Marinas wrote:> I don't think it's the
> calculate_sizes() that's the hard part. The way
> > kmemleak is designed assumes that the metadata has a longer lifespan
> > than the slab object it is tracking (and refcounted via
> > get_object/put_object()). We'd have to replace some of the
> > rcu_read_(un)lock() regions with a full kmemleak_lock together with a
> > few more tweaks to allow the release of kmemleak_lock during memory
> > scanning (which can take minutes; so it needs to be safe w.r.t. metadata
> > freeing, currently relying on a deferred RCU freeing).
> 
> Right.
> 
> I think SLUB already supports delaying object freeing because of KASAN (see
> the slab_free_freelist_hook() function) so the issue with metadata outliving
> object is solvable (although will consume more memory).

Thanks. That's definitely an area to investigate.

> I can't say I remember enough details from kmemleak to comment on the
> locking complications you point out, though.

They are not too bad, I'd just need some quiet couple of days to go
through them (which I don't have at the moment).

-- 
Catalin


      reply	other threads:[~2019-03-28 15:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-27  0:59 [PATCH v4] kmemleak: survive in a low-memory situation Qian Cai
2019-03-27  8:44 ` Michal Hocko
2019-03-27 11:34   ` Qian Cai
2019-03-27 11:44     ` Michal Hocko
2019-03-27 13:05       ` Qian Cai
2019-03-27 13:17         ` Michal Hocko
2019-03-27 17:29   ` Catalin Marinas
2019-03-27 18:02     ` Qian Cai
2019-03-28 15:05       ` Catalin Marinas
2019-03-28 15:41         ` Qian Cai
2019-03-27 18:17     ` Michal Hocko
2019-03-27 18:21     ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-03-28 14:59       ` Catalin Marinas
2019-03-28 15:24         ` Qian Cai
2019-03-29 12:02         ` Michal Hocko
2019-03-29 16:16           ` Catalin Marinas
2019-04-01 20:12             ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-05 16:43               ` Catalin Marinas
2019-03-28  6:05 ` Pekka Enberg
2019-03-28 10:30   ` Catalin Marinas
2019-03-28 11:50     ` Pekka Enberg
2019-03-28 15:28       ` Catalin Marinas [this message]

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