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From: Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
	hpa@zytor.com, kirill@shutemov.name, keescook@chromium.org,
	yamada.masahiro@socionext.com, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
	luto@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org, thgarnie@google.com,
	mike.travis@hpe.com, frank.ramsay@hpe.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] x86/mm/KASLR: Fix the wrong calculation of memory region initial size
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2019 09:55:47 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190406015547.GZ7627@MiWiFi-R3L-srv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1904051919430.1802@nanos.tec.linutronix.de>

On 04/05/19 at 07:22pm, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Apr 2019, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 10:03:13AM +0800, Baoquan He wrote:
> > > In memory region KASLR, __PHYSICAL_MASK_SHIFT is taken to calculate
> > 
> > What is "memory region KASLR"?
> > 
> > > the initial size of the direct mapping region. This is correct in
> > > the old code where __PHYSICAL_MASK_SHIFT was equal to MAX_PHYSMEM_BITS,
> > > 46 bits, and only 4-level mode was supported.
> > > 
> > > Later, in commit:
> > > b83ce5ee91471d ("x86/mm/64: Make __PHYSICAL_MASK_SHIFT always 52"),
> > > __PHYSICAL_MASK_SHIFT was changed to be always 52 bits, no matter it's
> > > 5-level or 4-level.
> > > 
> > > This is wrong for 4-level paging since it may cause randomness of KASLR
> > > being greatly weakened in 4-level. For KASLR, we compare the sum of RAM
> > > size and CONFIG_RANDOMIZE_MEMORY_PHYSICAL_PADDING with the size of the
> > > max RAM which can be supported by system, then choose the bigger one as
> > > the value to reserve space for the direct mapping region. The max RAM
> > > supported in 4-level is 64 TB according to MAX_PHYSMEM_BITS. However,
> > > here it's 4 PB in code to be compared with when __PHYSICAL_MASK_SHIFT is
> > > mistakenly used. E.g in a system owning 64 TB RAM, it will reserve 74 TB
> > > (which is 64 TB plus CONFIG_RANDOMIZE_MEMORY_PHYSICAL_PADDING). In fact
> > > it should reserve 64 TB according to the algorithm which is supposed to
> > > do. Obviously the extra 10 TB space should be saved to join randomization.
> > 
> > It is not a trivial situation you're trying to explain and that
> > paragraph is very very hard to understand. I can only rhyme up what
> > you're trying to say.
> > 
> > So please rewrite it using simple declarative sentences. Don't try to
> > say three things in one sentence but say one thing in three sentences.
> > Keep it simple.
> 
> For complex scenarios a simple ascii scheme is often helpful
> 
> Situation A
> 
>     ------- LIMIT1
> 
>     ------- LIMIT2
> 			<- unused area
>     -------
> 
>     ------- 0
> 
> Situation B
> 
>     ------- LIMIT1
> 
> 
> 		
>     ------- LIMIT2
> 
>     ------- 0
> 
> 
> I was not trying to depict your problem, it's just a random thing, but you get
> the idea.

OK, got it. Will rewrite with simpler sentences, and some more
understandable ways to depict. Thanks a lot.

Thanks
Baoquan


  reply	other threads:[~2019-04-06  1:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-04  2:03 [PATCH 0/2] x86/mm/KASLR: Fix two code bugs Baoquan He
2019-04-04  2:03 ` [PATCH 1/2] x86/mm/KASLR: Fix the wrong calculation of memory region initial size Baoquan He
2019-04-05 16:58   ` Borislav Petkov
2019-04-05 17:22     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-06  1:55       ` Baoquan He [this message]
2019-04-06  1:51     ` Baoquan He
2019-04-06  4:43       ` Borislav Petkov
2019-04-08  7:54         ` Baoquan He
2019-04-04  2:03 ` [PATCH 2/2] x86/mm/KASLR: Calculate the actual size of vmemmap region Baoquan He

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