From: Keith Busch <keith.busch@intel.com>
To: Yang Shi <yang.shi@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
mgorman@techsingularity.net, riel@surriel.com,
hannes@cmpxchg.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
dan.j.williams@intel.com, fengguang.wu@intel.com,
fan.du@intel.com, ying.huang@intel.com, ziy@nvidia.com,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [v2 RFC PATCH 0/9] Another Approach to Use PMEM as NUMA Node
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 09:13:47 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190417151347.GA4786@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8bc32012-b747-3827-1814-91942357d170@linux.alibaba.com>
On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 04:17:44PM -0700, Yang Shi wrote:
> On 4/16/19 4:04 PM, Dave Hansen wrote:
> > On 4/16/19 2:59 PM, Yang Shi wrote:
> > > On 4/16/19 2:22 PM, Dave Hansen wrote:
> > > > Keith Busch had a set of patches to let you specify the demotion order
> > > > via sysfs for fun. The rules we came up with were:
> > > > 1. Pages keep no history of where they have been
> > > > 2. Each node can only demote to one other node
> > > Does this mean any remote node? Or just DRAM to PMEM, but remote PMEM
> > > might be ok?
> > In Keith's code, I don't think we differentiated. We let any node
> > demote to any other node you want, as long as it follows the cycle rule.
>
> I recall Keith's code let the userspace define the target node.
Right, you have to opt-in in my original proposal since it may be a
bit presumptuous of the kernel to decide how a node's memory is going
to be used. User applications have other intentions for it.
It wouldn't be too difficult to make HMAT to create a reasonable initial
migration graph too, and that can also make that an opt-in user choice.
> Anyway, we may need add one rule: not migrate-on-reclaim from PMEM
> node. Demoting from PMEM to DRAM sounds pointless.
I really don't think we should be making such hard rules on PMEM. It
makes more sense to consider performance and locality for migration
rules than on a persistence attribute.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-04-17 15:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-04-11 3:56 [v2 RFC PATCH 0/9] Another Approach to Use PMEM as NUMA Node Yang Shi
2019-04-11 3:56 ` [v2 PATCH 1/9] mm: define N_CPU_MEM node states Yang Shi
2019-04-11 3:56 ` [v2 PATCH 2/9] mm: page_alloc: make find_next_best_node find return cpuless node Yang Shi
2019-04-11 3:56 ` [v2 PATCH 3/9] mm: numa: promote pages to DRAM when it gets accessed twice Yang Shi
2019-04-11 3:56 ` [v2 PATCH 4/9] mm: migrate: make migrate_pages() return nr_succeeded Yang Shi
2019-04-11 3:56 ` [v2 PATCH 5/9] mm: vmscan: demote anon DRAM pages to PMEM node Yang Shi
2019-04-11 14:31 ` Dave Hansen
2019-04-15 22:10 ` Yang Shi
2019-04-15 22:14 ` Dave Hansen
2019-04-15 22:26 ` Yang Shi
2019-04-11 3:56 ` [v2 PATCH 6/9] mm: vmscan: don't demote for memcg reclaim Yang Shi
2019-04-11 3:56 ` [v2 PATCH 7/9] mm: vmscan: check if the demote target node is contended or not Yang Shi
2019-04-11 16:06 ` Dave Hansen
2019-04-15 22:06 ` Yang Shi
2019-04-15 22:13 ` Dave Hansen
2019-04-15 22:23 ` Yang Shi
2019-04-11 3:56 ` [v2 PATCH 8/9] mm: vmscan: add page demotion counter Yang Shi
2019-04-11 3:56 ` [v2 PATCH 9/9] mm: numa: add page promotion counter Yang Shi
2019-04-11 14:28 ` [v2 RFC PATCH 0/9] Another Approach to Use PMEM as NUMA Node Dave Hansen
2019-04-12 8:47 ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-16 0:09 ` Yang Shi
2019-04-16 7:47 ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-16 14:30 ` Dave Hansen
2019-04-16 14:39 ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-16 15:46 ` Dave Hansen
2019-04-16 18:34 ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-16 15:33 ` Zi Yan
2019-04-16 15:55 ` Dave Hansen
2019-04-16 16:12 ` Zi Yan
2019-04-16 19:19 ` Yang Shi
2019-04-16 21:22 ` Dave Hansen
2019-04-16 21:59 ` Yang Shi
2019-04-16 23:04 ` Dave Hansen
2019-04-16 23:17 ` Yang Shi
2019-04-17 15:13 ` Keith Busch [this message]
2019-04-17 9:23 ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-17 15:23 ` Keith Busch
2019-04-17 15:39 ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-17 15:37 ` Keith Busch
2019-04-17 16:39 ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-17 17:26 ` Yang Shi
2019-04-17 17:29 ` Keith Busch
2019-04-17 17:51 ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-18 16:24 ` Yang Shi
2019-04-17 17:13 ` Dave Hansen
2019-04-17 17:57 ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-18 18:16 ` Keith Busch
2019-04-18 19:23 ` Yang Shi
2019-04-18 21:07 ` Zi Yan
2019-04-16 23:18 ` Yang Shi
2019-04-17 9:17 ` Michal Hocko
2019-05-01 6:43 ` Fengguang Wu
2019-04-17 20:43 ` Yang Shi
2019-04-18 9:02 ` Michal Hocko
2019-05-01 5:20 ` Fengguang Wu
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