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From: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
To: Brendan Higgins <brendanhiggins@google.com>
Cc: frowand.list@gmail.com, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
	keescook@google.com, kieran.bingham@ideasonboard.com,
	mcgrof@kernel.org, robh@kernel.org, sboyd@kernel.org,
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	Felix Guo <felixguoxiuping@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 15/18] Documentation: kunit: add documentation for KUnit
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 07:45:46 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190515074546.07700142@lwn.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190514231902.GA12893@google.com>

On Tue, 14 May 2019 16:19:02 -0700
Brendan Higgins <brendanhiggins@google.com> wrote:

> Hmmm...probably premature to bring this up, but Documentation/dev-tools/
> is kind of thrown together.

Wait a minute, man... *I* created that directory, are you impugning my
work? :)

But yes, "kind of thrown together" is a good description of much of
Documentation/.  A number of people have been working for years to make
that better, with some success, but there is a long way to go yet.  The
dev-tools directory is an improvement over having that stuff scattered all
over the place — at least it's actually thrown together — but it's not the
end point.

> It would be nice to provide a coherent overview, maybe provide some
> basic grouping as well.
> 
> It would be nice if there was kind of a gentle introduction to the
> tools, which ones you should be looking at, when, why, etc.

Total agreement.  All we need is somebody to write it!  :)

Thanks,

jon

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From: corbet at lwn.net (Jonathan Corbet)
Subject: [PATCH v3 15/18] Documentation: kunit: add documentation for KUnit
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 07:45:46 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190515074546.07700142@lwn.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190514231902.GA12893@google.com>

On Tue, 14 May 2019 16:19:02 -0700
Brendan Higgins <brendanhiggins at google.com> wrote:

> Hmmm...probably premature to bring this up, but Documentation/dev-tools/
> is kind of thrown together.

Wait a minute, man... *I* created that directory, are you impugning my
work? :)

But yes, "kind of thrown together" is a good description of much of
Documentation/.  A number of people have been working for years to make
that better, with some success, but there is a long way to go yet.  The
dev-tools directory is an improvement over having that stuff scattered all
over the place — at least it's actually thrown together — but it's not the
end point.

> It would be nice to provide a coherent overview, maybe provide some
> basic grouping as well.
> 
> It would be nice if there was kind of a gentle introduction to the
> tools, which ones you should be looking at, when, why, etc.

Total agreement.  All we need is somebody to write it!  :)

Thanks,

jon

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From: corbet@lwn.net (Jonathan Corbet)
Subject: [PATCH v3 15/18] Documentation: kunit: add documentation for KUnit
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 07:45:46 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190515074546.07700142@lwn.net> (raw)
Message-ID: <20190515134546.VAQv0Q4WVoYFbktM52w2nizn1K7J1tX18k4mJs0R79Q@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190514231902.GA12893@google.com>

On Tue, 14 May 2019 16:19:02 -0700
Brendan Higgins <brendanhiggins@google.com> wrote:

> Hmmm...probably premature to bring this up, but Documentation/dev-tools/
> is kind of thrown together.

Wait a minute, man... *I* created that directory, are you impugning my
work? :)

But yes, "kind of thrown together" is a good description of much of
Documentation/.  A number of people have been working for years to make
that better, with some success, but there is a long way to go yet.  The
dev-tools directory is an improvement over having that stuff scattered all
over the place — at least it's actually thrown together — but it's not the
end point.

> It would be nice to provide a coherent overview, maybe provide some
> basic grouping as well.
> 
> It would be nice if there was kind of a gentle introduction to the
> tools, which ones you should be looking at, when, why, etc.

Total agreement.  All we need is somebody to write it!  :)

Thanks,

jon

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From: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
To: Brendan Higgins <brendanhiggins@google.com>
Cc: pmladek@suse.com, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, amir73il@gmail.com,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, Alexander.Levin@microsoft.com,
	yamada.masahiro@socionext.com, mpe@ellerman.id.au,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, shuah@kernel.org,
	robh@kernel.org, linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org,
	frowand.list@gmail.com, knut.omang@oracle.com,
	kieran.bingham@ideasonboard.com,
	Felix Guo <felixguoxiuping@gmail.com>,
	wfg@linux.intel.com, joel@jms.id.au, rientjes@google.com,
	jdike@addtoit.com, dan.carpenter@oracle.com,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org,
	Tim.Bird@sony.com, linux-um@lists.infradead.org,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, julia.lawall@lip6.fr,
	kunit-dev@googlegroups.com, tytso@mit.edu, richard@nod.at,
	sboyd@kernel.org, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
	rdunlap@infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	mcgrof@kernel.org, daniel@ffwll.ch, keescook@google.com,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, khilman@baylibre.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 15/18] Documentation: kunit: add documentation for KUnit
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 07:45:46 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190515074546.07700142@lwn.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190514231902.GA12893@google.com>

On Tue, 14 May 2019 16:19:02 -0700
Brendan Higgins <brendanhiggins@google.com> wrote:

> Hmmm...probably premature to bring this up, but Documentation/dev-tools/
> is kind of thrown together.

Wait a minute, man... *I* created that directory, are you impugning my
work? :)

But yes, "kind of thrown together" is a good description of much of
Documentation/.  A number of people have been working for years to make
that better, with some success, but there is a long way to go yet.  The
dev-tools directory is an improvement over having that stuff scattered all
over the place — at least it's actually thrown together — but it's not the
end point.

> It would be nice to provide a coherent overview, maybe provide some
> basic grouping as well.
> 
> It would be nice if there was kind of a gentle introduction to the
> tools, which ones you should be looking at, when, why, etc.

Total agreement.  All we need is somebody to write it!  :)

Thanks,

jon
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From: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
To: Brendan Higgins <brendanhiggins@google.com>
Cc: pmladek@suse.com, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, amir73il@gmail.com,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, Alexander.Levin@microsoft.com,
	yamada.masahiro@socionext.com, mpe@ellerman.id.au,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, shuah@kernel.org,
	robh@kernel.org, linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org,
	frowand.list@gmail.com, knut.omang@oracle.com,
	kieran.bingham@ideasonboard.com,
	Felix Guo <felixguoxiuping@gmail.com>,
	wfg@linux.intel.com, joel@jms.id.au, rientjes@google.com,
	jdike@addtoit.com, dan.carpenter@oracle.com,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org,
	Tim.Bird@sony.com, linux-um@lists.infradead.org,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, julia.lawall@lip6.fr,
	dan.j.williams@intel.com, kunit-dev@googlegroups.com,
	tytso@mit.edu, richard@nod.at, sboyd@kernel.org,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, rdunlap@infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mcgrof@kernel.org, daniel@ffwll.ch,
	keescook@google.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	logang@deltatee.com, khilman@baylibre.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 15/18] Documentation: kunit: add documentation for KUnit
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 07:45:46 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190515074546.07700142@lwn.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190514231902.GA12893@google.com>

On Tue, 14 May 2019 16:19:02 -0700
Brendan Higgins <brendanhiggins@google.com> wrote:

> Hmmm...probably premature to bring this up, but Documentation/dev-tools/
> is kind of thrown together.

Wait a minute, man... *I* created that directory, are you impugning my
work? :)

But yes, "kind of thrown together" is a good description of much of
Documentation/.  A number of people have been working for years to make
that better, with some success, but there is a long way to go yet.  The
dev-tools directory is an improvement over having that stuff scattered all
over the place — at least it's actually thrown together — but it's not the
end point.

> It would be nice to provide a coherent overview, maybe provide some
> basic grouping as well.
> 
> It would be nice if there was kind of a gentle introduction to the
> tools, which ones you should be looking at, when, why, etc.

Total agreement.  All we need is somebody to write it!  :)

Thanks,

jon

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From: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
To: Brendan Higgins <brendanhiggins@google.com>
Cc: pmladek@suse.com, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, amir73il@gmail.com,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, Alexander.Levin@microsoft.com,
	yamada.masahiro@socionext.com, mpe@ellerman.id.au,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, shuah@kernel.org,
	linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org, frowand.list@gmail.com,
	knut.omang@oracle.com, kieran.bingham@ideasonboard.com,
	Felix Guo <felixguoxiuping@gmail.com>,
	wfg@linux.intel.com, joel@jms.id.au, rientjes@google.com,
	jdike@addtoit.com, dan.carpenter@oracle.com,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org,
	Tim.Bird@sony.com, linux-um@lists.infradead.org,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, julia.lawall@lip6.fr,
	dan.j.williams@intel.com, kunit-dev@googlegroups.com,
	tytso@mit.edu, richard@nod.at, sboyd@kernel.org,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, rdunlap@infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mcgrof@kernel.org,
	keescook@google.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 15/18] Documentation: kunit: add documentation for KUnit
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 07:45:46 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190515074546.07700142@lwn.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190514231902.GA12893@google.com>

On Tue, 14 May 2019 16:19:02 -0700
Brendan Higgins <brendanhiggins@google.com> wrote:

> Hmmm...probably premature to bring this up, but Documentation/dev-tools/
> is kind of thrown together.

Wait a minute, man... *I* created that directory, are you impugning my
work? :)

But yes, "kind of thrown together" is a good description of much of
Documentation/.  A number of people have been working for years to make
that better, with some success, but there is a long way to go yet.  The
dev-tools directory is an improvement over having that stuff scattered all
over the place — at least it's actually thrown together — but it's not the
end point.

> It would be nice to provide a coherent overview, maybe provide some
> basic grouping as well.
> 
> It would be nice if there was kind of a gentle introduction to the
> tools, which ones you should be looking at, when, why, etc.

Total agreement.  All we need is somebody to write it!  :)

Thanks,

jon
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  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-15 13:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 137+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-14  5:42 [PATCH v3 00/18] kunit: introduce KUnit, the Linux kernel unit testing framework Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42 ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42 ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42 ` brendanhiggins
2019-05-14  5:42 ` [PATCH v3 01/18] kunit: test: add KUnit test runner core Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` brendanhiggins
2019-05-14  5:42 ` [PATCH v3 02/18] kunit: test: add test resource management API Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` brendanhiggins
2019-05-14  5:42 ` [PATCH v3 03/18] kunit: test: add string_stream a std::stream like string builder Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` brendanhiggins
2019-05-14  5:42 ` [PATCH v3 04/18] kunit: test: add kunit_stream a std::stream like logger Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` brendanhiggins
2019-05-14  5:42 ` [PATCH v3 05/18] kunit: test: add the concept of expectations Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` brendanhiggins
2019-05-14  5:42 ` [PATCH v3 06/18] kbuild: enable building KUnit Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` brendanhiggins
2019-05-14  5:42 ` [PATCH v3 07/18] kunit: test: add initial tests Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` brendanhiggins
2019-05-14  5:42 ` [PATCH v3 08/18] objtool: add kunit_try_catch_throw to the noreturn list Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` brendanhiggins
2019-05-14  6:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-14  6:56     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-14  6:56     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-14  6:56     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-14  6:56     ` peterz
2019-05-14  8:12     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  8:12       ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  8:12       ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  8:12       ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  8:12       ` brendanhiggins
2019-05-14  8:46       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-14  8:46         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-14  8:46         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-14  8:46         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-14  8:46         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-14  8:46         ` peterz
2019-05-14 18:12         ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14 18:12           ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14 18:12           ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14 18:12           ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14 18:12           ` brendanhiggins
2019-05-14  5:42 ` [PATCH v3 09/18] kunit: test: add support for test abort Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` brendanhiggins
2019-05-14  5:42 ` [PATCH v3 10/18] kunit: test: add tests for kunit " Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` brendanhiggins
2019-05-14  5:42 ` [PATCH v3 11/18] kunit: test: add the concept of assertions Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` brendanhiggins
2019-05-14  5:42 ` [PATCH v3 12/18] kunit: test: add tests for KUnit managed resources Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` brendanhiggins
2019-05-14  5:42 ` [PATCH v3 13/18] kunit: tool: add Python wrappers for running KUnit tests Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` brendanhiggins
2019-05-14  5:42 ` [PATCH v3 14/18] kunit: defconfig: add defconfigs for building " Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` brendanhiggins
2019-05-14  5:42 ` [PATCH v3 15/18] Documentation: kunit: add documentation for KUnit Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` brendanhiggins
2019-05-14 13:34   ` Jonathan Corbet
2019-05-14 13:34     ` Jonathan Corbet
2019-05-14 13:34     ` Jonathan Corbet
2019-05-14 13:34     ` Jonathan Corbet
2019-05-14 13:34     ` corbet
2019-05-14 18:08     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14 18:08       ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14 18:08       ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14 18:08       ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14 18:08       ` brendanhiggins
2019-05-14 18:16       ` Jonathan Corbet
2019-05-14 18:16         ` Jonathan Corbet
2019-05-14 18:16         ` Jonathan Corbet
2019-05-14 18:16         ` Jonathan Corbet
2019-05-14 18:16         ` Jonathan Corbet
2019-05-14 18:16         ` corbet
2019-05-14 23:19         ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14 23:19           ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14 23:19           ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14 23:19           ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14 23:19           ` brendanhiggins
2019-05-15 13:45           ` Jonathan Corbet [this message]
2019-05-15 13:45             ` Jonathan Corbet
2019-05-15 13:45             ` Jonathan Corbet
2019-05-15 13:45             ` Jonathan Corbet
2019-05-15 13:45             ` Jonathan Corbet
2019-05-15 13:45             ` corbet
2019-06-04 21:56             ` Brendan Higgins
2019-06-04 21:56               ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42 ` [PATCH v3 16/18] MAINTAINERS: add entry for KUnit the unit testing framework Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` brendanhiggins
2019-05-14  5:42 ` [PATCH v3 17/18] kernel/sysctl-test: Add null pointer test for sysctl.c:proc_dointvec() Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` brendanhiggins
2019-05-14  5:42 ` [PATCH v3 18/18] MAINTAINERS: add proc sysctl KUnit test to PROC SYSCTL section Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-05-14  5:42   ` brendanhiggins

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