From: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
Kernel Hardening <kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com>,
James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
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Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
Sandeep Patil <sspatil@android.com>,
Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com>,
Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
Souptick Joarder <jrdr.linux@gmail.com>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
linux-security-module <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/4] gfp: mm: introduce __GFP_NO_AUTOINIT
Date: Fri, 17 May 2019 09:27:54 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201905170925.6FD47DDFFF@keescook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190517140108.GK6836@dhcp22.suse.cz>
On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 04:01:08PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Fri 17-05-19 15:37:14, Alexander Potapenko wrote:
> > > > > Freeing a memory is an opt-in feature and the slab allocator can already
> > > > > tell many (with constructor or GFP_ZERO) do not need it.
> > > > Sorry, I didn't understand this piece. Could you please elaborate?
> > >
> > > The allocator can assume that caches with a constructor will initialize
> > > the object so additional zeroying is not needed. GFP_ZERO should be self
> > > explanatory.
> > Ah, I see. We already do that, see the want_init_on_alloc()
> > implementation here: https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/10943087/
> > > > > So can we go without this gfp thing and see whether somebody actually
> > > > > finds a performance problem with the feature enabled and think about
> > > > > what can we do about it rather than add this maint. nightmare from the
> > > > > very beginning?
> > > >
> > > > There were two reasons to introduce this flag initially.
> > > > The first was double initialization of pages allocated for SLUB.
> > >
> > > Could you elaborate please?
> > When the kernel allocates an object from SLUB, and SLUB happens to be
> > short on free pages, it requests some from the page allocator.
> > Those pages are initialized by the page allocator
>
> ... when the feature is enabled ...
>
> > and split into objects. Finally SLUB initializes one of the available
> > objects and returns it back to the kernel.
> > Therefore the object is initialized twice for the first time (when it
> > comes directly from the page allocator).
> > This cost is however amortized by SLUB reusing the object after it's been freed.
>
> OK, I see what you mean now. Is there any way to special case the page
> allocation for this feature? E.g. your implementation tries to make this
> zeroying special but why cannot you simply do this
>
>
> struct page *
> ____alloc_pages_nodemask(gfp_t gfp_mask, unsigned int order, int preferred_nid,
> nodemask_t *nodemask)
> {
> //current implementation
> }
>
> struct page *
> __alloc_pages_nodemask(gfp_t gfp_mask, unsigned int order, int preferred_nid,
> nodemask_t *nodemask)
> {
> if (your_feature_enabled)
> gfp_mask |= __GFP_ZERO;
> return ____alloc_pages_nodemask(gfp_mask, order, preferred_nid,
> nodemask);
> }
>
> and use ____alloc_pages_nodemask from the slab or other internal
> allocators?
If an additional allocator function is preferred over a new GFP flag, then
I don't see any reason not to do this. (Though adding more "__"s seems
a bit unfriendly to code-documentation.) What might be better naming?
This would mean that the skb changes later in the series would use the
"no auto init" version of the allocator too, then.
--
Kees Cook
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-05-17 16:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-05-14 14:35 [PATCH v2 0/4] RFC: add init_on_alloc/init_on_free boot options Alexander Potapenko
2019-05-14 14:35 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] mm: security: introduce init_on_alloc=1 and init_on_free=1 " Alexander Potapenko
2019-05-16 16:19 ` Kees Cook
2019-05-16 16:42 ` Alexander Potapenko
2019-05-16 17:03 ` Kees Cook
2019-05-17 1:26 ` Kees Cook
2019-05-17 14:38 ` Alexander Potapenko
2019-05-17 14:04 ` Michal Hocko
2019-05-17 14:11 ` Alexander Potapenko
2019-05-17 14:20 ` Michal Hocko
2019-05-17 16:36 ` Kees Cook
2019-05-17 17:11 ` Michal Hocko
2019-05-14 14:35 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] lib: introduce test_meminit module Alexander Potapenko
2019-05-16 1:02 ` Kees Cook
2019-05-17 15:51 ` Alexander Potapenko
2019-05-17 16:37 ` Kees Cook
2019-05-14 14:35 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] gfp: mm: introduce __GFP_NO_AUTOINIT Alexander Potapenko
2019-05-17 12:59 ` Michal Hocko
2019-05-17 13:18 ` Alexander Potapenko
2019-05-17 13:25 ` Michal Hocko
2019-05-17 13:37 ` Alexander Potapenko
2019-05-17 14:01 ` Michal Hocko
2019-05-17 16:27 ` Kees Cook [this message]
2019-05-17 17:11 ` Michal Hocko
2019-05-21 14:18 ` Alexander Potapenko
2019-05-21 14:25 ` Michal Hocko
2019-05-14 14:35 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] net: apply __GFP_NO_AUTOINIT to AF_UNIX sk_buff allocations Alexander Potapenko
2019-05-16 16:53 ` Kees Cook
2019-05-17 0:26 ` Kees Cook
2019-05-17 8:49 ` Alexander Potapenko
2019-05-17 13:50 ` Alexander Potapenko
2019-05-17 16:13 ` Kees Cook
2019-05-17 0:50 ` [PATCH 5/4] mm: Introduce SLAB_NO_FREE_INIT and mark excluded caches Kees Cook
2019-05-17 8:34 ` Alexander Potapenko
2019-05-17 15:59 ` Kees Cook
2019-05-20 6:10 ` Mathias Krause
2019-05-20 16:12 ` Kees Cook
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