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From: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
To: Emily Shaffer <emilyshaffer@google.com>
Cc: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] grep: provide sane default to grep_source struct
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 17:17:36 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190522001736.GA219159@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190521235212.GA46998@google.com>

Hi,

Emily Shaffer wrote:
> On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 06:02:54PM -0400, Jeff King wrote:
>> On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 02:44:44PM -0700, Emily Shaffer wrote:

>>> +	/* TODO: In the future it may become desirable to pass in the name as
>>> +	 * an argument to grep_buffer(). At that time, "(in core)" should be
>>> +	 * replaced.
>>> +	 */

(micronit, likely moot: Git's multi-line comments start with "/*" on
its own line:

	/*
	 * NEEDSWORK: Passing the name in as an argument would allow
	 * "(in core)" to be replaced.
	 */

.)

>>> +	grep_source_init(&gs, GREP_SOURCE_BUF, _("(in core)"), NULL, NULL);
>>
>> Hmm. I don't see much point in this one, as it would just avoid
>> triggering our BUG(). If somebody is adding new grep_buffer() callers
>> that don't use status_only, wouldn't we want them to see the BUG() to
>> know that they need to refactor grep_buffer() to provide a name?
[...]
> Can we think of a reason anybody would want to be able to use it this
> way with the placeholder string?

I agree with Peff here: using NULL puts this in a better place with
respect to Rusty's API design manifesto[1].

With the "(in core)" default, I may end up triggering the "(in core)"
behavior in production, because there is not a clear enough signal
that my code path is making a mistake.  That's problematic because it
gives the end user a confusing experience: the end user cares where
the line comes from, not that it spent a second or two in core.

With the NULL default, *especially* after this patch, such usage would
instead trigger a BUG: line in output, meaning

- if it gets exercised in tests, the test will fail, prompting the
  patch auther to pass in a more appropriate label

- if it gets missed in tests and gets triggered in production, the error
  message makes it clear that this is a mistake so the user is likely
  to report a bug instead of assuming this is deliberate but confusing
  behavior

In that vein, this patch is very helpful, since the BUG would trip
*consistently*, not only when the grep pattern matches.  Failing
consistently like this is a huge improvement in API usability.

It would be even better if we could catch the problem at compile time,
but one thing at a time.

Thanks,
Jonathan

[1] https://ozlabs.org/~rusty/index.cgi/tech/2008-03-30.html,
https://ozlabs.org/~rusty/index.cgi/tech/2008-04-01.html

  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-22  0:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-16  2:00 [RFC PATCH] grep: provide sane default to grep_source struct Emily Shaffer
2019-05-16  3:07 ` Junio C Hamano
2019-05-16  3:13   ` Jonathan Nieder
2019-05-16  3:11 ` Jonathan Nieder
2019-05-16 21:05   ` Emily Shaffer
2019-05-16 21:44 ` [PATCH v2] " Emily Shaffer
2019-05-16 22:02   ` Jeff King
2019-05-21 23:52     ` Emily Shaffer
2019-05-22  0:17       ` Jonathan Nieder [this message]
2019-05-22  0:34   ` [PATCH v3] " Emily Shaffer
2019-05-22  0:58     ` Jonathan Nieder
2019-05-22  4:01     ` Jeff King
2019-05-23 20:23     ` [PATCH v4] grep: fail if call could output and name is null Emily Shaffer
2019-05-23 20:34       ` Jonathan Nieder
2019-05-28 17:57         ` Junio C Hamano

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