From: AKASHI Takahiro <takahiro.akashi@linaro.org>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] RSA in U-Boot
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 14:48:42 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190522054840.GC28505@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190517084756.507E1240014@gemini.denx.de>
Wolfgang,
Thank you for your comments.
On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 10:47:56AM +0200, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> Dear Akashi Takahiro,
>
> In message <20190517001206.GX11160@linaro.org> you wrote:
> >
> > > Who: usually the responsible custodians
> >
> > "Custodians" don't always mean sub-system maintainers. Right?
>
> It's just a different name for the same thing.
Okay.
> > In fact, I have already imported relevant kernel code into U-Boot
> > and it now works perfectly with my experimental UEFI secure boot patch,
> > but see the total size (and numbers) of files imported is quite big.
> > I wonder who is willing to maintain them:
> ...
> > 37 files changed, 6409 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
>
> Well, if you compare for example against libressl-portable , then
> this git repository has 180 files with more than 20,000 lines.
I think that there are two different approaches in using
external code (library).
1.import necessary source files into U-Boot repository, customize them
and build them with the rest of U-Boot
2.build it as a static library, either totally outside of U-Boot
or as a git submodule, and link it, i.e. only needed binary blobs,
to U-Boot.
(I don't know any existing libraries like this in U-Boot though.)
We can adopt only (1) for kernel code, but *in general* (2) as well
for a library. That way, we may potentially save/minimize our own
maintenance cost, again *in general.*
Those said, it seems to me that, gnutls, for instance, is not well
optimized for smaller (or purpose-specific) systems. For example,
_wrap_nettle_pk_verify(), public key verification function, supports
not only RSA, but also DSA, ECDSA and so on with no "opt-out" options
while UEFI secure boot only needs and supports RSA.
> We are adding a lot of functionality, and anyone who wants to use
> this will have to pay the price. But this is what I mentioned
> before: I think the kernel code has already been tweaked with an
> eye on resource consumption, while standard public libraries have
> not.
I'm not very sure about your last statement above, but as far as
the customisability is concerned some libraries may have an issue
in (2) as I mentioned above.
In this sense, I still want to seek a possibility of using other
smaller libraries, like mbedTLS.
(mbedTLS has another issue, lacking pkcs7 parser.)
> The kernel code may be big, but I would be surprised if there are
> smaller and leaner alternatives with similar quality?
>
> As for who is willing to maintain it: I have no idea. Usually it
> turns out to be the original implementoer / who pushed the code
> upstream into U-Boot.
Okay, but for most of examples you mentioned as linux-origin code,
there are no explicit maintainers. Right?
-Takahiro Akashi
>
> Best regards,
>
> Wolfgang Denk
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-05-22 5:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-03-18 2:17 [U-Boot] RSA in U-Boot AKASHI, Takahiro
2019-04-25 2:12 ` AKASHI, Takahiro
2019-04-26 9:05 ` Alexander Graf
2019-04-26 20:16 ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-04-27 5:31 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-04-27 6:33 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2019-05-16 7:23 ` Sughosh Ganu
2019-05-16 10:39 ` Wolfgang Denk
2019-05-16 10:45 ` Ilias Apalodimas
2019-05-16 11:13 ` Tom Rini
2019-05-16 11:19 ` Ilias Apalodimas
2019-05-16 11:56 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2019-05-16 12:07 ` Tom Rini
2019-05-16 12:18 ` Wolfgang Denk
2019-05-17 0:12 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2019-05-17 8:47 ` Wolfgang Denk
2019-05-22 5:48 ` AKASHI Takahiro [this message]
2019-06-05 5:27 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2019-06-05 14:04 ` Tom Rini
2019-08-27 10:35 ` Grant Likely
2019-08-27 23:55 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2019-05-16 17:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-05-17 0:26 ` AKASHI, Takahiro
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