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From: Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer@who-t.net>
To: Hui Wang <hui.wang@canonical.com>
Cc: "Pali Rohár" <pali.rohar@gmail.com>,
	"Xiaoxiao Liu" <xiaoxiao.liu-1@cn.alps.com>,
	dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com,
	"XiaoXiao Liu" <sliuuxiaonxiao@gmail.com>,
	"linux-input@vger.kernel.org" <linux-input@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Xiaojian Cao" <xiaojian.cao@cn.alps.com>,
	"zhangfp1@lenovo.com" <zhangfp1@lenovo.com>
Subject: Re: 答复: 答复: 答复: [PATCH] input: alps-fix the issue the special alps trackpoint do not work.
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 15:36:48 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190524053648.GA16379@jelly> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <38ec4a40-d51a-aeb1-a5e8-dbaed1142298@canonical.com>

On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 01:25:52PM +0800, Hui Wang wrote:
> 
> On 2019/5/23 下午2:01, Peter Hutterer wrote:
> > On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 09:40:30AM +0200, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 22 May 2019 07:30:43 Xiaoxiao Liu wrote:
> > > > Hi Pali,
> > > > 
> > > > Ok, and cannot you set ALPS_DUALPOINT flag based on that
> > > > alps_check_is_trackpoint() result and then update
> > > > alps_process_packet_ss4_v3() code to supports also
> > > > V8 trackpoint packets?
> > > > --> Yes, we can do like so, when we use the v8 method to process the trackpoint , the mouse speed is not ideal.
> > > >        Then we choose the standard mouse driver.
> > > Mouse speed is something which is configurable. Have you configured it
> > > somehow? Also there is libinput project should handle these settings
> > > more properly.
> > > 
> > > Adding Peter Hutterer, maintainer of libinput to loop. I think he could
> > > help with this problem.
> > libinput has a quirk for a magic multiplier on trackpoints. it was the only
> > solution I found that came close to "working" given that every device seems
> > to provide some other random magic data. Doc for it is here:
> > https://wayland.freedesktop.org/libinput/doc/latest/trackpoint-configuration.html
> 
> Hello Peter Hutterer,
> 
> To adjust the trackpoint speed from userspace:
> 
> If the libinput version is lower than 1.9.0, we could set
> POINTINGSTICK_CONST_ACCEL=0.25
> 
> If the libinput version is higher than 1.12.0, we could set
> AttrTrackpointMultiplier=0.25
> 
> But if we use libinput-1.10.0,  how could we adjust the speed?

The LIBINPUT_ATTR_TRACKPOINT_RANGE property, which didn't end up working
well (hence why it got replaced again). See the docs here though:
https://wayland.freedesktop.org/libinput/doc/1.10.0/trackpoints.html

Cheers,
   Peter

> > 
> > There are also different speeds depending on which xorg driver you'd use (or
> > libinput/Wayland), so a "mouse speed is not ideal" is almost a guarantee,
> > given a large enough variety of setups :) That's why we have the speed
> > toggle, but I'm happy to hear any suggestions on how to make the trackpoint
> > more useful (in libinput anyway).
> > 
> > > I do not think it is a good idea to force back to generic PS/2 mouse
> > > driver for touchpads and trackpoints. Native drivers for touchpads and
> > > trackpoints supports multitouch, absolute reporting and lot of other
> > > things... Also calculation of mouse speed from absolute positions on
> > > touchpads can be more easily fixed as from emulated relative movements.
> > Yeah, agree. Using PS/2 mouse drivers means you lose *all* the extra
> > features touchpads have like palm detection, tapping, scrolling, gestures,
> > etc.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> >     Peter
> > 
> > > Dmitry, what is your opinion about this problem? What should psmouse.ko
> > > do in this situation? Disallow usage of absolute mode and force bare
> > > PS/2 relative mode?
> > 

  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-24  5:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-20 11:01 [PATCH] input: alps-fix the issue the special alps trackpoint do not work XiaoXiao Liu
2019-05-21  1:07 ` 答复: " Xiaoxiao Liu
2019-05-21  2:26   ` Hui Wang
2019-05-21  9:46     ` Pali Rohár
2019-05-22  2:53       ` 答复: " Xiaoxiao Liu
2019-05-22  6:35         ` Pali Rohár
2019-05-22  7:30           ` 答复: " Xiaoxiao Liu
2019-05-22  7:40             ` Pali Rohár
2019-05-23  6:01               ` Peter Hutterer
2019-05-24  5:25                 ` Hui Wang
2019-05-24  5:36                   ` Peter Hutterer [this message]
2019-05-24  5:50                     ` Hui Wang
2019-05-24  7:26                       ` Pali Rohár
2019-05-24  7:37                         ` Hui Wang
2019-05-24  9:37                           ` Peter Hutterer
     [not found]                             ` <f0c2dff9-519e-d54d-4cd0-2be666656dc2@canonical.com>
2019-05-24 10:58                               ` Peter Hutterer
2019-05-25  1:33                                 ` Hui Wang
2019-05-24  9:32                         ` Peter Hutterer
2019-05-24  9:52                           ` Pali Rohár

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