From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_MUTT autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CE9DC04AB6 for ; Fri, 31 May 2019 13:45:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E69C6269B7 for ; Fri, 31 May 2019 13:45:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726418AbfEaNpj (ORCPT ); Fri, 31 May 2019 09:45:39 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:60280 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726330AbfEaNpj (ORCPT ); Fri, 31 May 2019 09:45:39 -0400 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx05.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 84B6C302451A; Fri, 31 May 2019 13:45:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dhcp-27-174.brq.redhat.com (unknown [10.43.17.159]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B0D02FC57; Fri, 31 May 2019 13:45:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dhcp-27-174.brq.redhat.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1000 oleg@redhat.com; Fri, 31 May 2019 15:45:33 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 15:45:30 +0200 From: Oleg Nesterov To: Joel Fernandes Cc: Eric Dumazet , "Paul E. McKenney" , rcu Subject: Re: Question about cacheline bounching with percpu-rwsem and rcu-sync Message-ID: <20190531134529.GC31323@redhat.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.15 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.49]); Fri, 31 May 2019 13:45:39 +0000 (UTC) Sender: rcu-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: rcu@vger.kernel.org On 05/31, Joel Fernandes wrote: > > The problem with traditional read-write semaphores is that when multiple > cores take the lock for reading, the cache line containing the semaphore > is bouncing between L1 caches of the cores, causing performance > degradation. > > However, it appears to me that the struct percpu_rwsem "rss" element > which is used by the RCU-sync is not a per-cpu element. So even in the > fastpath case (only readers and no writers), the cacheline containing > rss is shared and will bounce by multiple CPUs. For that matter, even > the cacheline containing the percpu_rw_semaphore itself will be bounce > among multiple reader CPUs. The readers won't modify this memory? read_lock/unlock will only update the per-cpu counter, ->read_count. Oleg.