From: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
To: Jens Freimann <jfreimann@redhat.com>
Cc: pkrempa@redhat.com, berrange@redhat.com, mst@redhat.com,
aadam@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
laine@redhat.com, ailan@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/4] net/virtio: add failover support
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2019 11:09:30 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190604140930.GA22103@habkost.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190604134321.txlw7wjwe247g5ug@jenstp.localdomain>
On Tue, Jun 04, 2019 at 03:43:21PM +0200, Jens Freimann wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 04:36:48PM -0300, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 10:24:56AM +0200, Jens Freimann wrote:
> > > On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 06:47:48PM -0300, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> > > > On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 04:56:45PM +0200, Jens Freimann wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 11:04:15AM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 10:45:05AM +0100, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> > > > > > > * Jens Freimann (jfreimann@redhat.com) wrote:
> > > Why is it bad to fully re-create the device in case of a failed migration?
> >
> > Bad or not, I thought the whole point of doing it inside QEMU was
> > to do something libvirt wouldn't be able to do (namely,
> > unplugging the device while not freeing resources). If we are
> > doing something that management software is already capable of
> > doing, what's the point?
>
> Event though management software seems to be capable of it, a failover
> implementation has never happened. As Michael says network failover is
> a mechanism (there's no good reason not to use a PT device if it is
> available), not a policy. We are now trying to implement it in a
> simple way, contained within QEMU.
I don't think this is a strong enough reason to move complexity
to QEMU.
This might look like it's reducing complexity in the
QEMU<->libvirt interface, but having QEMU unplugging/plugging
devices automatically without libvirt involvement is actually
complicating that interface.
That said, I won't try to prevent this from being merged if the
maintainers and libvirt developers agree on this interface.
--
Eduardo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-06-04 14:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-05-17 12:58 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] add failover feature for assigned network devices Jens Freimann
2019-05-17 12:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/4] migration: allow unplug during migration for failover devices Jens Freimann
2019-05-21 9:33 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-05-21 9:47 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-05-23 8:01 ` Jens Freimann
2019-05-23 15:37 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-05-17 12:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/4] qdev/qbus: Add hidden device support Jens Freimann
2019-05-21 11:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-17 12:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/4] net/virtio: add failover support Jens Freimann
2019-05-21 9:45 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-05-30 14:56 ` Jens Freimann
2019-05-30 17:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-30 18:00 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-05-30 18:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-30 18:22 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-30 23:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-31 17:01 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-31 18:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-31 18:42 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-31 18:45 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-05-31 20:29 ` Alex Williamson
2019-05-31 21:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-31 21:59 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-06-03 8:59 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-05-31 20:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-31 21:03 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-06-03 8:06 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-05-30 19:08 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-05-30 19:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-31 8:23 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-06-05 15:23 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-05-30 18:17 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-30 19:09 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-05-31 21:47 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-06-03 8:24 ` Jens Freimann
2019-06-03 9:26 ` Jens Freimann
2019-06-03 18:10 ` Laine Stump
2019-06-03 18:46 ` Alex Williamson
2019-06-05 15:20 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-06-06 15:00 ` Roman Kagan
2019-06-03 19:36 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-06-04 13:43 ` Jens Freimann
2019-06-04 14:09 ` Eduardo Habkost [this message]
2019-06-04 17:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-06-04 19:00 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-06-07 14:14 ` Jens Freimann
2019-06-07 14:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-06-07 17:51 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-06-05 14:36 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-06-05 16:04 ` Laine Stump
2019-06-05 16:19 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-05-17 12:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] vfio/pci: unplug failover primary device before migration Jens Freimann
2019-05-20 22:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] add failover feature for assigned network devices Alex Williamson
2019-05-21 7:21 ` Jens Freimann
2019-05-21 11:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-21 18:49 ` Jens Freimann
2019-05-29 0:14 ` si-wei liu
2019-05-29 2:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-06-03 18:06 ` Laine Stump
2019-06-03 18:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-06-03 18:18 ` Laine Stump
2019-06-06 21:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-29 2:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-29 7:48 ` Jens Freimann
2019-05-30 18:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-31 15:12 ` Jens Freimann
2019-05-21 14:18 ` Alex Williamson
2019-05-21 8:37 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-05-21 10:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-05-21 19:17 ` Jens Freimann
2019-05-21 21:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-06-11 15:42 ` Laine Stump
2019-06-11 15:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-06-11 16:12 ` Laine Stump
2019-06-12 9:11 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-06-12 11:59 ` Jens Freimann
2019-06-12 15:54 ` Laine Stump
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