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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.ibm.com>
To: Scott Wood <swood@redhat.com>
Cc: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Clark Williams <williams@redhat.com>,
	linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH RT 3/4] rcu: unlock special: Treat irq and preempt disabled the same
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 15:25:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190620222505.GB26519@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cf42d8516ac99f69913b1f7a7e8abe578ad27e7f.camel@redhat.com>

On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 04:59:30PM -0500, Scott Wood wrote:
> On Thu, 2019-06-20 at 14:10 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 08:19:07PM -0500, Scott Wood wrote:
> > > [Note: Just before posting this I noticed that the invoke_rcu_core stuff
> > >  is part of the latest RCU pull request, and it has a patch that
> > >  addresses this in a more complicated way that appears to deal with the
> > >  bare irq-disabled sequence as well.
> > 
> > Far easier to deal with it than to debug the lack of it.  ;-)
> > 
> > >  Assuming we need/want to support such sequences, is the
> > >  invoke_rcu_core() call actually going to result in scheduling any
> > >  sooner?  resched_curr() just does the same setting of need_resched
> > >  when it's the same cpu.
> > > ]
> > 
> > Yes, invoke_rcu_core() can in some cases invoke the scheduler sooner.
> > Setting the CPU-local bits might not have effect until the next interrupt.
> 
> Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see how (in the non-use_softirq
> case).  It just calls wake_up_process(), which in resched_curr() will set
> need_resched but not do an IPI-to-self.

The common non-rt case will be use_softirq.  Or are you referring
specifically to this block of code in current -rcu?

		} else if (exp && irqs_were_disabled && !use_softirq &&
			   !t->rcu_read_unlock_special.b.deferred_qs) {
			// Safe to awaken and we get no help from enabling
			// irqs, unlike bh/preempt.
			invoke_rcu_core();

								Thanx, Paul


  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-20 22:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-19  1:19 [PATCH RT 0/4] Address rcutorture issues Scott Wood
2019-06-19  1:19 ` [PATCH RT 1/4] rcu: Acquire RCU lock when disabling BHs Scott Wood
2019-06-20 20:53   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-20 21:06     ` Scott Wood
2019-06-20 21:20       ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-20 21:38         ` Scott Wood
2019-06-20 22:16           ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-19  1:19 ` [PATCH RT 2/4] sched: migrate_enable: Use sleeping_lock to indicate involuntary sleep Scott Wood
2019-06-19  1:19 ` [RFC PATCH RT 3/4] rcu: unlock special: Treat irq and preempt disabled the same Scott Wood
2019-06-20 21:10   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-20 21:59     ` Scott Wood
2019-06-20 22:25       ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2019-06-20 23:08         ` Scott Wood
2019-06-22  0:26           ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-22 19:13             ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-24 17:40               ` Scott Wood
2019-06-19  1:19 ` [RFC PATCH RT 4/4] rcutorture: Avoid problematic critical section nesting Scott Wood
2019-06-20 21:18   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-20 21:43     ` Scott Wood
2019-06-21 16:38     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-06-21 23:59       ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-26 15:08         ` Steven Rostedt
2019-06-26 16:49           ` Scott Wood
2019-06-27 18:00             ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-27 20:16               ` Scott Wood
2019-06-27 20:50                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-27 22:46                   ` Scott Wood
2019-06-28  0:52                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-28 19:37                       ` Scott Wood
2019-06-28 20:24                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-20 19:12 ` [PATCH RT 0/4] Address rcutorture issues Paul E. McKenney

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