From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
To: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Cc: Michal Kubecek <mkubecek@suse.cz>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>,
Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>,
davem@davemloft.net, jakub.kicinski@netronome.com,
sthemmin@microsoft.com, mlxsw@mellanox.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] longer netdev names proposal
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 20:35:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190627183538.GI31189@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190627112305.7e05e210@hermes.lan>
On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 11:23:05AM -0700, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 20:08:03 +0200
> Michal Kubecek <mkubecek@suse.cz> wrote:
>
> > It often feels as a deficiency that unlike block devices where we can
> > keep one name and create multiple symlinks based on different naming
> > schemes, network devices can have only one name. There are aliases but
> > AFAIK they are only used (and can be only used) for SNMP. IMHO this
> > limitation is part of the mess that left us with so-called "predictable
> > names" which are in practice neither persistent nor predictable.
> >
> > So perhaps we could introduce actual aliases (or altnames or whatever we
> > would call them) for network devices that could be used to identify
> > a network device whenever both kernel and userspace tool supports them.
> > Old (and ancient) tools would have to use the one canonical name limited
> > to current IFNAMSIZ, new tools would allow using any alias which could
> > be longer.
> >
> > Michal
>
>
> That is already there in current network model.
> # ip li set dev eno1 alias 'Onboard Ethernet'
> # ip li show dev eno1
> 2: eno1: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
> link/ether ac:1f:6b:74:38:c0 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
> alias Onboard Ethernet
Hi Stephen
$ ip li set dev enp3s0 alias "Onboard Ethernet"
# ip link show "Onboard Ethernet"
Device "Onboard Ethernet" does not exist.
So it does not really appear to be an alias, it is a label. To be
truly useful, it needs to be more than a label, it needs to be a real
alias which you can use.
Andrew
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-06-27 18:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-06-27 9:43 [RFC] longer netdev names proposal Jiri Pirko
2019-06-27 15:29 ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-06-27 16:12 ` Dan Williams
2019-06-27 17:14 ` David Ahern
2019-06-27 18:08 ` Michal Kubecek
2019-06-27 18:23 ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-06-27 18:35 ` Andrew Lunn [this message]
2019-06-27 18:39 ` Michal Kubecek
2019-06-27 19:20 ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-06-27 19:35 ` Dan Williams
2019-06-28 7:35 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-06-28 11:12 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-06-28 11:42 ` Michal Kubecek
2019-06-28 12:25 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-06-28 13:14 ` Andrew Lunn
2019-06-28 13:55 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-06-28 15:44 ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-06-28 15:56 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-06-28 16:27 ` Michal Kubecek
2019-06-28 7:29 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-06-27 17:48 ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-06-27 17:56 ` Stephen Hemminger
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