From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.stusta.mhn.de (mail.stusta.mhn.de [141.84.69.5]) by mail.openembedded.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 181477ECAF for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 12:43:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.stusta.mhn.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 45qDMh3333z4s; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 14:43:44 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=stusta.de; s=default; t=1563453826; bh=XLteHv8BGX6qWPV3c261OQEup612pedfNsAAEAuOcj0=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=RMdjN1GCdNROx7wsTQrpqBdHM1n3s2Eosi9jvpiGiO1PF9Hk84OMQUZElSZFtD3SY CgCEAdWAmoRfhIG6nsOsLQCZI9eEAV6K7EZ8RowR8L6Y3CYeU+CwQ3tVdbxZRhWONE 3m6Hsy6ZVDfUwp4khdWf+DToa5v5dsSk02VisowZ8mBaufgAuPld8k9WuloBeUX1LS 21T1ArlcUTk+p96KOCQX3V/Wca4ux8MW1yVLLxMhK+loZEeN7wfKtrhT6eovLa4nt1 1Csfmop3jvNJNZX3M2iftXeTqRYV+H4M03ErLqyd40bLWvro3fYjHwv6LNbkr1+mFj x0xU0rgff73pjNPPZh/8HmRFzO79E0pYKVIRGTH46eQyqys0Z6+q/wMUvxabkIqMOY vs3/xwlGCoMbP4PIen0lHCI38uiQ5jWZWdJ7nm3SlEOasN0/IbyElGAZZOA/mO4E8K wvooI9rt+JclGiBRJ7YywsGEHQ0ZbVuXXNBKqODcZjsVTw9pMwHzTUCFYZWTnnxD2P hkxSy9rNfDnD4lLAGrBxBmWdimgxZqPEasuP2Ot49669fiEn+cZqpz7SYWipT8WDV7 MELzPfrG8MsyLx9dJeH9imK15Vqm2xr015oJe6tExZko8RxMvW0Y1CS/ZfIlRwvrn/ U5hBSRQHRVryAmxrY5C/6KFo= Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 15:43:42 +0300 From: Adrian Bunk To: Richard Purdie Message-ID: <20190718124342.GA1393@localhost> References: <20190718060409.GA27459@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Cc: Yocto-mailing-list , OE-core Subject: Re: RFC: dropping official support for Debian 8 / Opensuse 42.3 X-BeenThere: openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 12:43:46 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 12:43:50PM +0100, Richard Purdie wrote: > On Thu, 2019-07-18 at 12:31 +0100, Burton, Ross wrote: > > > CentOS 7 is based on Fedora 19 from 2013. > > > > > > This is the oldest currently supported distribution, and when to > > > remove > > > support for it (replacing it with the not yet existing CentOS 8) > > > should > > > IMHO be part of this discussion. > > > > Centos 7 support is, I believe, already patchy - I think we mandate > > the buildtools for that? Any idea what the support plan for Centos 7 > > will be once 8 is released, whenever that is? > > There is some kind of official feed to add python 3.6 to it which we > use. Python is only a small part of the picture. What I would be interested in would be to get rid of the ever-growing number of hacks and patches for supporting the ancient gcc 4.8 in CentOS 7. With support for Debian 8 removed, CentOS 7 will be two gcc major versions behind all other supported host distributions. Remember the nettle problems immediately before Yocto 2.7 was released, the root cause was a (bogus) workaround for supporting hosts with gcc < 5. > Cheers, > > Richard cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: by yocto-www.yoctoproject.org (Postfix, from userid 118) id 18C4EE00D94; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 05:43:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on yocto-www.yoctoproject.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-HAM-Report: * -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.0000] * -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, low * trust * [141.84.69.5 listed in list.dnswl.org] * -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's * domain * -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature * 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily * valid Received: from mail.stusta.mhn.de (mail.stusta.mhn.de [141.84.69.5]) by yocto-www.yoctoproject.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D8D5E00D89 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 05:43:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.stusta.mhn.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 45qDMh3333z4s; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 14:43:44 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=stusta.de; s=default; t=1563453826; bh=XLteHv8BGX6qWPV3c261OQEup612pedfNsAAEAuOcj0=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=RMdjN1GCdNROx7wsTQrpqBdHM1n3s2Eosi9jvpiGiO1PF9Hk84OMQUZElSZFtD3SY CgCEAdWAmoRfhIG6nsOsLQCZI9eEAV6K7EZ8RowR8L6Y3CYeU+CwQ3tVdbxZRhWONE 3m6Hsy6ZVDfUwp4khdWf+DToa5v5dsSk02VisowZ8mBaufgAuPld8k9WuloBeUX1LS 21T1ArlcUTk+p96KOCQX3V/Wca4ux8MW1yVLLxMhK+loZEeN7wfKtrhT6eovLa4nt1 1Csfmop3jvNJNZX3M2iftXeTqRYV+H4M03ErLqyd40bLWvro3fYjHwv6LNbkr1+mFj x0xU0rgff73pjNPPZh/8HmRFzO79E0pYKVIRGTH46eQyqys0Z6+q/wMUvxabkIqMOY vs3/xwlGCoMbP4PIen0lHCI38uiQ5jWZWdJ7nm3SlEOasN0/IbyElGAZZOA/mO4E8K wvooI9rt+JclGiBRJ7YywsGEHQ0ZbVuXXNBKqODcZjsVTw9pMwHzTUCFYZWTnnxD2P hkxSy9rNfDnD4lLAGrBxBmWdimgxZqPEasuP2Ot49669fiEn+cZqpz7SYWipT8WDV7 MELzPfrG8MsyLx9dJeH9imK15Vqm2xr015oJe6tExZko8RxMvW0Y1CS/ZfIlRwvrn/ U5hBSRQHRVryAmxrY5C/6KFo= Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 15:43:42 +0300 From: Adrian Bunk To: Richard Purdie Message-ID: <20190718124342.GA1393@localhost> References: <20190718060409.GA27459@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Cc: Yocto-mailing-list , OE-core Subject: Re: [OE-core] RFC: dropping official support for Debian 8 / Opensuse 42.3 X-BeenThere: yocto@yoctoproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of all things Yocto Project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 12:43:49 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 12:43:50PM +0100, Richard Purdie wrote: > On Thu, 2019-07-18 at 12:31 +0100, Burton, Ross wrote: > > > CentOS 7 is based on Fedora 19 from 2013. > > > > > > This is the oldest currently supported distribution, and when to > > > remove > > > support for it (replacing it with the not yet existing CentOS 8) > > > should > > > IMHO be part of this discussion. > > > > Centos 7 support is, I believe, already patchy - I think we mandate > > the buildtools for that? Any idea what the support plan for Centos 7 > > will be once 8 is released, whenever that is? > > There is some kind of official feed to add python 3.6 to it which we > use. Python is only a small part of the picture. What I would be interested in would be to get rid of the ever-growing number of hacks and patches for supporting the ancient gcc 4.8 in CentOS 7. With support for Debian 8 removed, CentOS 7 will be two gcc major versions behind all other supported host distributions. Remember the nettle problems immediately before Yocto 2.7 was released, the root cause was a (bogus) workaround for supporting hosts with gcc < 5. > Cheers, > > Richard cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed