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From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>
Cc: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	"maintainer:X86 ARCHITECTURE (32-BIT AND 64-BIT)"
	<x86@kernel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com>,
	"gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org" <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/6] compiler-gcc.h: add asm_inline definition
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 09:47:25 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190905144725.GQ9749@gate.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ceb01e88-b172-d6e7-98d4-c14ddeae87d9@rasmusvillemoes.dk>

On Thu, Sep 05, 2019 at 04:23:11PM +0200, Rasmus Villemoes wrote:
> On 05/09/2019 15.45, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 05, 2019 at 01:07:11PM +0200, Rasmus Villemoes wrote:
> >> Perhaps something like below, though that
> >> won't affect the already released gcc 9.1 and 9.2, of course.
> > 
> > That is one reason to not want such a predefined macro.  Another reason
> > is that you usually need to compile some test programs *anyway*, to see if
> > some bug is present for example, or to see if the exact implementation of
> > the feature is beneficial (or harmful) to your program in some way.
> 
> OK, I think I'll just use a version check for now, and then switch to a
> Kconfig test if and when clang grows support.
> 
> >> gcc maintainers, WDYT? Can we add a feature test macro for asm inline()?
> > 
> > Why would GCC want to have macros for all features it has? 
> 
> Well, gcc has implemented __has_attribute() which is similar - one could
> detect support by compiling a trivial test program.

It is not a macro, it doesn't spill over the place, and it is for
detecting things that are already fixed strings, much easier to do :-)

> Or the same could be
> said for many of the predefined macros that are conditionally defined,
> e.g. __HAVE_SPECULATION_SAFE_VALUE.

That one happened because of the Great Security Scare of 2017/2018, it's
not a good precedent.  And, how it is set is target-specific, it can
depend on CPU model selected, target code generation options, or whatnot.

> But I was just throwing the question into the air, I won't pursue this
> further.

Maybe GCC should have a has_feature thing, it might fit in well there.
As preprocessor macros, not so much, IMO.


Segher

  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-05 14:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-29  8:32 [RFC PATCH 0/5] make use of gcc 9's "asm inline()" Rasmus Villemoes
2019-08-29  8:32 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] treewide: replace __inline__ by inline Rasmus Villemoes
2019-08-29 16:29   ` Joe Perches
2019-08-29  8:32 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] compiler_types.h: don't #define __inline__ Rasmus Villemoes
2019-08-29  8:32 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] compiler-gcc.h: add asm_inline definition Rasmus Villemoes
2019-08-29  8:32 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] x86: alternative.h: use asm_inline for all alternative variants Rasmus Villemoes
2019-08-29  8:32 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] x86: bug.h: use asm_inline in _BUG_FLAGS definitions Rasmus Villemoes
2019-08-29 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] make use of gcc 9's "asm inline()" Linus Torvalds
2019-08-30  7:45   ` Rasmus Villemoes
2019-08-29 17:36 ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-08-29 18:15   ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-29 18:26     ` Nadav Amit
2019-08-29 18:42     ` Borislav Petkov
2019-08-29 19:41   ` Masahiro Yamada
2019-08-30 23:15 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] " Rasmus Villemoes
2019-08-30 23:15   ` [PATCH v2 1/6] staging: rtl8723bs: replace __inline by inline Rasmus Villemoes
2019-09-04 23:54     ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-08-30 23:15   ` [PATCH v2 2/6] lib/zstd/mem.h: " Rasmus Villemoes
2019-09-04 23:59     ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-09-05  0:07       ` Miguel Ojeda
2019-09-05  9:28         ` Rasmus Villemoes
2019-08-30 23:15   ` [PATCH v2 3/6] compiler_types.h: don't #define __inline Rasmus Villemoes
2019-09-05  0:13     ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-09-05  9:45       ` Rasmus Villemoes
2019-08-30 23:15   ` [PATCH v2 4/6] compiler-gcc.h: add asm_inline definition Rasmus Villemoes
2019-09-05  0:18     ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-09-05  5:43       ` Nadav Amit
2019-09-05 11:07       ` Rasmus Villemoes
2019-09-05 13:45         ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-09-05 14:23           ` Rasmus Villemoes
2019-09-05 14:47             ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2019-09-05 15:52           ` Miguel Ojeda
2019-09-05 16:13             ` Miguel Ojeda
2019-09-06 12:23             ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-09-06 15:13               ` Miguel Ojeda
2019-09-06 16:30                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-09-06 16:39                   ` Jakub Jelinek
2019-09-06 18:14                     ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-09-06 22:03                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-09-06 22:35                         ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-09-06 22:56                           ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-09-06 23:42                             ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-09-07  0:14                               ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-09-07  1:04                                 ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-09-07 13:11                                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-09-08 13:55                                     ` Miguel Ojeda
2019-09-12 21:54                                     ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-09-12 22:12                                       ` Rasmus Villemoes
2019-09-20  0:50                                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-09-06 16:47                   ` Miguel Ojeda
2019-08-30 23:15   ` [PATCH v2 5/6] x86: alternative.h: use asm_inline for all alternative variants Rasmus Villemoes
2019-08-30 23:15   ` [PATCH v2 6/6] x86: bug.h: use asm_inline in _BUG_FLAGS definitions Rasmus Villemoes
2019-09-12 22:19   ` [PATCH v3 0/6] make use of gcc 9's "asm inline()" Rasmus Villemoes
2019-09-12 22:19     ` [PATCH v3 1/6] staging: rtl8723bs: replace __inline by inline Rasmus Villemoes
2019-09-29 10:40       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-09-12 22:19     ` [PATCH v3 2/6] lib/zstd/mem.h: " Rasmus Villemoes
2019-09-12 22:19     ` [PATCH v3 3/6] compiler_types.h: don't #define __inline Rasmus Villemoes
2019-09-12 22:19     ` [PATCH v3 4/6] compiler-types.h: add asm_inline definition Rasmus Villemoes
2019-09-12 22:19     ` [PATCH v3 5/6] x86: alternative.h: use asm_inline for all alternative variants Rasmus Villemoes
2019-09-13  5:41       ` Ingo Molnar
2019-09-12 22:19     ` [PATCH v3 6/6] x86: bug.h: use asm_inline in _BUG_FLAGS definitions Rasmus Villemoes
2019-09-13  5:42       ` Ingo Molnar
2019-09-12 22:30     ` [PATCH v3 0/6] make use of gcc 9's "asm inline()" Miguel Ojeda
2019-09-13  6:11       ` Rasmus Villemoes
2019-09-13 15:21         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-09-15 18:20           ` Miguel Ojeda

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