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From: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>
To: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/4] mm: don't expose non-hugetlb page to fast gup prematurely
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 23:06:48 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190927050648.GA92494@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9465df76-0229-1b44-5646-5cced1bc1718@nvidia.com>

On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 08:26:46PM -0700, John Hubbard wrote:
> On 9/26/19 3:20 AM, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 04:26:54PM -0600, Yu Zhao wrote:
> >> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 10:25:30AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 05:24:58PM -0600, Yu Zhao wrote:
> ...
> >>> I'm thinking this patch make stuff rather fragile.. Should we instead
> >>> stick the barrier in set_p*d_at() instead? Or rather, make that store a
> >>> store-release?
> >>
> >> I prefer it this way too, but I suspected the majority would be
> >> concerned with the performance implications, especially those
> >> looping set_pte_at()s in mm/huge_memory.c.
> > 
> > We can rename current set_pte_at() to __set_pte_at() or something and
> > leave it in places where barrier is not needed. The new set_pte_at()( will
> > be used in the rest of the places with the barrier inside.
> 
> +1, sounds nice. I was unhappy about the wide-ranging changes that would have
> to be maintained. So this seems much better.

Just to be clear that doing so will add unnecessary barriers to one
of the two paths that share set_pte_at().

> > BTW, have you looked at other levels of page table hierarchy. Do we have
> > the same issue for PMD/PUD/... pages?
> > 
> 
> Along the lines of "what other memory barriers might be missing for
> get_user_pages_fast(), I'm also concerned that the synchronization between
> get_user_pages_fast() and freeing the page tables might be technically broken,
> due to missing memory barriers on the get_user_pages_fast() side. Details:
> 
> gup_fast() disables interrupts, but I think it also needs some sort of
> memory barrier(s), in order to prevent reads of the page table (gup_pgd_range,
> etc) from speculatively happening before the interrupts are disabled. 

I was under impression switching back from interrupt context is a
full barrier (otherwise wouldn't we be vulnerable to some side
channel attacks?), so the reader side wouldn't need explicit rmb.


  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-27  5:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-08 22:56 [PATCH] mm: don't expose page to fast gup before it's ready Yu Zhao
2018-01-08 22:56 ` Yu Zhao
2018-01-09  8:46 ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-09  8:46   ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-09 10:10   ` Yu Zhao
2018-01-09 10:10     ` Yu Zhao
2018-01-31 23:07     ` Andrew Morton
2018-01-31 23:07       ` Andrew Morton
2019-05-14 21:25     ` Andrew Morton
2019-05-14 23:07       ` Yu Zhao
2019-09-14  7:05         ` [PATCH v2] mm: don't expose page to fast gup prematurely Yu Zhao
2019-09-24 11:23           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-09-24 22:05             ` Yu Zhao
2019-09-25 12:17               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-09-26  3:58                 ` Yu Zhao
2019-09-24 23:24           ` [PATCH v3 1/4] mm: remove unnecessary smp_wmb() in collapse_huge_page() Yu Zhao
2019-09-24 23:24             ` [PATCH v3 2/4] mm: don't expose hugetlb page to fast gup prematurely Yu Zhao
2019-09-24 23:24             ` [PATCH v3 3/4] mm: don't expose non-hugetlb " Yu Zhao
2019-09-25  8:25               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-25 22:26                 ` Yu Zhao
2019-09-26 10:20                   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-09-27  3:26                     ` John Hubbard
2019-09-27  5:06                       ` Yu Zhao [this message]
2019-10-01 22:31                         ` John Hubbard
2019-10-02  0:00                           ` Yu Zhao
2019-09-27 12:33                       ` Michal Hocko
2019-09-27 18:31                         ` Yu Zhao
2019-09-27 19:31                         ` John Hubbard
2019-09-29 22:47                           ` John Hubbard
2019-09-30  9:20                           ` Jan Kara
2019-09-30 17:57                             ` John Hubbard
2019-10-01  7:10                               ` Jan Kara
2019-10-01  8:36                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-01  8:40                                   ` Jan Kara
2019-10-01 18:43                                 ` John Hubbard
2019-10-02  9:24                                   ` Jan Kara
2019-10-02 17:33                                     ` John Hubbard
2019-09-24 23:24             ` [PATCH v3 4/4] mm: remove unnecessary smp_wmb() in __SetPageUptodate() Yu Zhao
2019-09-24 23:50               ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-09-25 22:03                 ` Yu Zhao

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