Re: RFE: use patchwork to submit a patch

[Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>]

On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 11:11:57AM +0200, Dmitry Vyukov wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 10:57 AM Eric Wong wrote:
> > Dmitry Vyukov wrote:
> > > As one data point, I cannot send emails with git send-email anymore.
> > > It used to work, then broke and I don't know how to fix it. Now it says:
> > >
> > > 5.7.8 Username and Password not accepted. Learn more at
> > > 5.7.8  https://support.google.com/mail/?p=BadCredentials
> > > s10sm8376885wrr.5 - gsmtp
> > >
> > > I suspect it has something to do with two factor auth.
> > > So that's it: it cannot contribute to kernel right now.
> > > I will not consider time spent fixing it as useful time investment.
> >
> > I'm sorry you feel that way about time investments...
> > But I've always assumed that's also the sentiment for time spent
> > learning ANY new tools or workflow changes that come along.
> 
> This is true. But the fact that there is a learning curve to anything
> does not justify any learning curve for everything. Some parts of
> technology may be isolated completely and one does not need to learn
> anything about that part. For example, today to compile a high-level
> language one generally does not need to learn anything about machine
> instructions. So the question is: is SMTP/IMAP is something that
> inherently needs to be learned for contribution to kernel or it can be
> hidden/not required/made simpler? And looking at github/facebook I
> would assume that contributors do not have to be exposed to that.

I also forgot to mention one thing here. It can be argue that forges and
large e-mail providers such as gmail made the world a better place by
managing to hide SMTP and IMAP. But if you want to defend that point of
view, then it should be their responsibility to provide integration with
git-send-email. Golden handcuffs are, at the end of the day, just
handcuffs.

> > > Any kernel documentation that I can find for gmail, mentions config
> > > that I am already using and that is not working:
> > > https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/search.html?q=gmail&check_keywords=yes&area=default#
> > > https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/process/email-clients.html?highlight=gmail
> >
> > Fwiw, git-send-email(1) manpage also has a special section for gmail:
> >
> >   https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
> >
> > and a link for app-specific passwords:
> >
> >   https://security.google.com/settings/security/apppasswords
> >
> > Perhaps that helps?
> 
> For me that page says "The setting you are looking for is not
> available for your account".
> I suspect app passwords work if 2-factor auth is enabled, but what
> enabled on my account is "Use your phone to sign in", which is
> different from 2-factor auth setting.

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Regards,

Laurent Pinchart