From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com>,
"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
"hpa@zytor.com" <hpa@zytor.com>,
"bberg@redhat.com" <bberg@redhat.com>,
"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
"linux-edac@vger.kernel.org" <linux-edac@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"hdegoede@redhat.com" <hdegoede@redhat.com>,
"ckellner@redhat.com" <ckellner@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] x86, mce, therm_throt: Optimize logging of thermal throttle messages
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 09:17:07 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191018071707.GA2328@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191017214445.GG14441@zn.tnic>
On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 11:44:45PM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 09:31:30PM +0000, Luck, Tony wrote:
> > That sounds like the right short term action.
> >
> > Depending on what we end up with from Srinivas ... we may want
> > to reconsider the severity. The basic premise of Srinivas' patch
> > is to avoid printing anything for short excursions above temperature
> > threshold. But the effect of that is that when we find the core/package
> > staying above temperature for an extended period of time, we are
> > in a serious situation where some action may be needed. E.g.
> > move the laptop off the soft surface that is blocking the air vents.
>
> I don't think having a critical severity message is nearly enough.
> There are cases where the users simply won't see that message, no shell
> opened, nothing scanning dmesg, nothing pops up on the desktop to show
> KERN_CRIT messages, etc.
>
> If we really wanna handle this case then we must be much more reliable:
>
> * we throttle the machine from within the kernel - whatever that may mean
> * if that doesn't help, we stop scheduling !root tasks
> * if that doesn't help, we halt
> * ...
We have forced idle injection, that should be able to reduce the system
to barely functional but non-cooker status.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-10-18 7:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2019-10-14 21:21 ` [PATCH 1/2] x86, mce, therm_throt: Optimize logging of thermal throttle messages Srinivas Pandruvada
2019-10-14 21:21 ` [PATCH 2/2] x86, mce: Add additional kernel boot parameter Srinivas Pandruvada
2019-10-14 21:36 ` [PATCH 1/2] x86, mce, therm_throt: Optimize logging of thermal throttle messages Borislav Petkov
2019-10-14 22:27 ` Luck, Tony
2019-10-15 8:36 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-15 8:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-15 13:43 ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2019-10-14 22:41 ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2019-10-15 8:46 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-15 14:01 ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2019-10-15 8:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-15 13:31 ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2019-10-16 8:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-16 14:00 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-17 21:31 ` Luck, Tony
2019-10-17 21:44 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-17 23:53 ` Luck, Tony
2019-10-18 6:46 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-18 7:17 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2019-10-18 12:26 ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2019-10-18 13:23 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-18 15:55 ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2019-10-18 19:40 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-18 18:02 ` Luck, Tony
2019-10-18 19:45 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-18 20:38 ` Luck, Tony
2019-10-19 8:10 ` Borislav Petkov
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