From: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@intel.com>
To: Karol Herbst <kherbst@redhat.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Lyude Paul <lyude@redhat.com>,
"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
Linux PCI <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
nouveau <nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org>,
Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>,
Mario Limonciello <Mario.Limonciello@dell.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] pci: prevent putting nvidia GPUs into lower device states on certain intel bridges
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 17:53:01 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191120155301.GL11621@lahna.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACO55tvo3rbPtYJcioEgXCEQqVXcVAm-iowr9Nim=bgTdMjgLw@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 04:37:14PM +0100, Karol Herbst wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 4:15 PM Mika Westerberg
> <mika.westerberg@intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 01:11:52PM +0100, Karol Herbst wrote:
> > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 1:09 PM Mika Westerberg
> > > <mika.westerberg@intel.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 12:58:00PM +0100, Karol Herbst wrote:
> > > > > overall, what I really want to know is, _why_ does it work on windows?
> > > >
> > > > So do I ;-)
> > > >
> > > > > Or what are we doing differently on Linux so that it doesn't work? If
> > > > > anybody has any idea on how we could dig into this and figure it out
> > > > > on this level, this would probably allow us to get closer to the root
> > > > > cause? no?
> > > >
> > > > Have you tried to use the acpi_rev_override parameter in your system and
> > > > does it have any effect?
> > > >
> > > > Also did you try to trace the ACPI _ON/_OFF() methods? I think that
> > > > should hopefully reveal something.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I think I did in the past and it seemed to have worked, there is just
> > > one big issue with this: it's a Dell specific workaround afaik, and
> > > this issue plagues not just Dell, but we've seen it on HP and Lenovo
> > > laptops as well, and I've heard about users having the same issues on
> > > Asus and MSI laptops as well.
> >
> > Maybe it is not a workaround at all but instead it simply determines
> > whether the system supports RTD3 or something like that (IIRC Windows 8
> > started supporting it). Maybe Dell added check for Linux because at that
> > time Linux did not support it.
> >
>
> the point is, it's not checking it by default, so by default you still
> run into the windows 8 codepath.
Well you can add the quirk to acpi_rev_dmi_table[] so it goes to that
path by default. There are a bunch of similar entries for Dell machines.
Of course this does not help the non-Dell users so we would still need
to figure out the root cause.
> > In case RTD3 is supported it invokes LKDS() which probably does the L2
> > or L3 entry and this is for some reason does not work the same way in
> > Linux than it does with Windows 8+.
> >
> > I don't remember if this happens only with nouveau or with the
> > proprietary driver as well but looking at the nouveau runtime PM suspend
> > hook (assuming I'm looking at the correct code):
> >
> > static int
> > nouveau_pmops_runtime_suspend(struct device *dev)
> > {
> > struct pci_dev *pdev = to_pci_dev(dev);
> > struct drm_device *drm_dev = pci_get_drvdata(pdev);
> > int ret;
> >
> > if (!nouveau_pmops_runtime()) {
> > pm_runtime_forbid(dev);
> > return -EBUSY;
> > }
> >
> > nouveau_switcheroo_optimus_dsm();
> > ret = nouveau_do_suspend(drm_dev, true);
> > pci_save_state(pdev);
> > pci_disable_device(pdev);
> > pci_ignore_hotplug(pdev);
> > pci_set_power_state(pdev, PCI_D3cold);
> > drm_dev->switch_power_state = DRM_SWITCH_POWER_DYNAMIC_OFF;
> > return ret;
> > }
> >
> > Normally PCI drivers leave the PCI bus PM things to PCI core but here
> > the driver does these. So I wonder if it makes any difference if we let
> > the core handle all that:
> >
> > static int
> > nouveau_pmops_runtime_suspend(struct device *dev)
> > {
> > struct pci_dev *pdev = to_pci_dev(dev);
> > struct drm_device *drm_dev = pci_get_drvdata(pdev);
> > int ret;
> >
> > if (!nouveau_pmops_runtime()) {
> > pm_runtime_forbid(dev);
> > return -EBUSY;
> > }
> >
> > nouveau_switcheroo_optimus_dsm();
> > ret = nouveau_do_suspend(drm_dev, true);
> > pci_ignore_hotplug(pdev);
> > drm_dev->switch_power_state = DRM_SWITCH_POWER_DYNAMIC_OFF;
> > return ret;
> > }
> >
> > and similar for the nouveau_pmops_runtime_resume().
> >
>
> yeah, I tried that at some point and it didn't help either. The reason
> we call those from inside Nouveau is to support systems pre _PR where
> nouveau invokes custom _DSM calls on its own. We could potentially
> check for that though.
OK.
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From: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@intel.com>
To: Karol Herbst <kherbst@redhat.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
Linux PCI <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
Mario Limonciello <Mario.Limonciello@dell.com>,
Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
nouveau <nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] pci: prevent putting nvidia GPUs into lower device states on certain intel bridges
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 17:53:01 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191120155301.GL11621@lahna.fi.intel.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20191120155301.Xn1n7RJewEa4ov9Nz0905qn-Z5wYvJII0ii8ghHl1H4@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACO55tvo3rbPtYJcioEgXCEQqVXcVAm-iowr9Nim=bgTdMjgLw@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 04:37:14PM +0100, Karol Herbst wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 4:15 PM Mika Westerberg
> <mika.westerberg@intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 01:11:52PM +0100, Karol Herbst wrote:
> > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 1:09 PM Mika Westerberg
> > > <mika.westerberg@intel.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 12:58:00PM +0100, Karol Herbst wrote:
> > > > > overall, what I really want to know is, _why_ does it work on windows?
> > > >
> > > > So do I ;-)
> > > >
> > > > > Or what are we doing differently on Linux so that it doesn't work? If
> > > > > anybody has any idea on how we could dig into this and figure it out
> > > > > on this level, this would probably allow us to get closer to the root
> > > > > cause? no?
> > > >
> > > > Have you tried to use the acpi_rev_override parameter in your system and
> > > > does it have any effect?
> > > >
> > > > Also did you try to trace the ACPI _ON/_OFF() methods? I think that
> > > > should hopefully reveal something.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I think I did in the past and it seemed to have worked, there is just
> > > one big issue with this: it's a Dell specific workaround afaik, and
> > > this issue plagues not just Dell, but we've seen it on HP and Lenovo
> > > laptops as well, and I've heard about users having the same issues on
> > > Asus and MSI laptops as well.
> >
> > Maybe it is not a workaround at all but instead it simply determines
> > whether the system supports RTD3 or something like that (IIRC Windows 8
> > started supporting it). Maybe Dell added check for Linux because at that
> > time Linux did not support it.
> >
>
> the point is, it's not checking it by default, so by default you still
> run into the windows 8 codepath.
Well you can add the quirk to acpi_rev_dmi_table[] so it goes to that
path by default. There are a bunch of similar entries for Dell machines.
Of course this does not help the non-Dell users so we would still need
to figure out the root cause.
> > In case RTD3 is supported it invokes LKDS() which probably does the L2
> > or L3 entry and this is for some reason does not work the same way in
> > Linux than it does with Windows 8+.
> >
> > I don't remember if this happens only with nouveau or with the
> > proprietary driver as well but looking at the nouveau runtime PM suspend
> > hook (assuming I'm looking at the correct code):
> >
> > static int
> > nouveau_pmops_runtime_suspend(struct device *dev)
> > {
> > struct pci_dev *pdev = to_pci_dev(dev);
> > struct drm_device *drm_dev = pci_get_drvdata(pdev);
> > int ret;
> >
> > if (!nouveau_pmops_runtime()) {
> > pm_runtime_forbid(dev);
> > return -EBUSY;
> > }
> >
> > nouveau_switcheroo_optimus_dsm();
> > ret = nouveau_do_suspend(drm_dev, true);
> > pci_save_state(pdev);
> > pci_disable_device(pdev);
> > pci_ignore_hotplug(pdev);
> > pci_set_power_state(pdev, PCI_D3cold);
> > drm_dev->switch_power_state = DRM_SWITCH_POWER_DYNAMIC_OFF;
> > return ret;
> > }
> >
> > Normally PCI drivers leave the PCI bus PM things to PCI core but here
> > the driver does these. So I wonder if it makes any difference if we let
> > the core handle all that:
> >
> > static int
> > nouveau_pmops_runtime_suspend(struct device *dev)
> > {
> > struct pci_dev *pdev = to_pci_dev(dev);
> > struct drm_device *drm_dev = pci_get_drvdata(pdev);
> > int ret;
> >
> > if (!nouveau_pmops_runtime()) {
> > pm_runtime_forbid(dev);
> > return -EBUSY;
> > }
> >
> > nouveau_switcheroo_optimus_dsm();
> > ret = nouveau_do_suspend(drm_dev, true);
> > pci_ignore_hotplug(pdev);
> > drm_dev->switch_power_state = DRM_SWITCH_POWER_DYNAMIC_OFF;
> > return ret;
> > }
> >
> > and similar for the nouveau_pmops_runtime_resume().
> >
>
> yeah, I tried that at some point and it didn't help either. The reason
> we call those from inside Nouveau is to support systems pre _PR where
> nouveau invokes custom _DSM calls on its own. We could potentially
> check for that though.
OK.
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Thread overview: 150+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-10-17 12:19 [PATCH v4] pci: prevent putting nvidia GPUs into lower device states on certain intel bridges Karol Herbst
2019-11-14 19:17 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-14 19:17 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-19 20:06 ` Dave Airlie
2019-11-19 20:06 ` Dave Airlie
2019-11-19 20:06 ` Dave Airlie
2019-11-19 21:49 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-11-19 21:49 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-11-19 22:26 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-19 22:26 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-19 22:26 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-19 22:57 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-11-19 22:57 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-11-20 10:18 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 10:18 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 10:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 10:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 10:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 11:22 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 11:22 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 11:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 11:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 11:51 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 11:51 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 12:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 12:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 12:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 12:09 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 12:09 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 12:09 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 12:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 12:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 12:19 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 12:19 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 12:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 12:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 11:51 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 11:51 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 11:54 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 11:54 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 11:54 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 11:58 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 11:58 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 11:58 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 12:09 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 12:09 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 12:11 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 12:11 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 12:11 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 15:15 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 15:15 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 15:37 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 15:37 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 15:53 ` Mika Westerberg [this message]
2019-11-20 15:53 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 16:23 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 16:23 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-20 21:36 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 21:36 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 21:36 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-21 10:14 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 10:14 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 11:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 11:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 11:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 11:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 11:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 11:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 11:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 11:17 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 11:17 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 11:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 11:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 21:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 21:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 21:40 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 21:40 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-20 22:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-20 22:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 11:28 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 11:28 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 11:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 11:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 11:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 11:46 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 11:46 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 12:52 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 12:52 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 12:56 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-21 12:56 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-21 15:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 15:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 15:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 19:49 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 19:49 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-21 22:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 22:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 22:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 22:50 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-21 22:50 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-22 0:13 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-22 0:13 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-22 9:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-22 9:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-22 11:30 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-22 11:30 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-22 11:30 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-22 10:36 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-22 10:36 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-22 11:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-22 11:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-22 11:34 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-22 11:34 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-22 11:34 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-22 11:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-22 11:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-22 11:52 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-22 11:52 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-22 12:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-22 12:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 12:52 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-21 12:52 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-21 15:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 15:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 16:06 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-21 16:06 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-21 16:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-21 16:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-26 23:10 ` Lyude Paul
2019-11-26 23:10 ` Lyude Paul
2019-11-27 11:48 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-27 11:48 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-27 11:51 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-27 11:51 ` Karol Herbst
2019-11-27 19:51 ` Lyude Paul
2019-11-27 19:51 ` Lyude Paul
2019-12-09 11:17 ` Karol Herbst
2019-12-09 11:17 ` Karol Herbst
2019-12-09 11:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-12-09 11:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-12-09 11:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-12-09 12:24 ` Karol Herbst
2019-12-09 12:24 ` Karol Herbst
2019-12-10 19:58 ` Dave Airlie
2019-12-10 19:58 ` Dave Airlie
2019-12-10 20:49 ` Karol Herbst
2019-12-10 20:49 ` Karol Herbst
2020-01-13 15:31 ` Karol Herbst
2020-01-13 15:31 ` Karol Herbst
2020-01-13 15:31 ` Karol Herbst
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