From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-block <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>, Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET v3 0/5] Support for RWF_UNCACHED
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 16:04:01 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191211210401.GA158617@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=whk4bcVPvtAv5OmHiW5z6AXgCLFhO4YrXD7o0XC+K-aHw@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 12:18:38PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 12:08 PM Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk> wrote:
> >
> > $ cat /proc/meminfo | grep -i active
> > Active: 134136 kB
> > Inactive: 28683916 kB
> > Active(anon): 97064 kB
> > Inactive(anon): 4 kB
> > Active(file): 37072 kB
> > Inactive(file): 28683912 kB
>
> Yeah, that should not put pressure on some swap activity. We have 28
> GB of basically free inactive file data, and the VM is doing something
> very very bad if it then doesn't just quickly free it with no real
> drama.
I was looking at this with Jens offline last week. One thing to note
is the rate of IO that Jens is working with: combined with the low
cache hit rate, it was pushing upwards of half a million pages through
the page cache each second.
There isn't anything obvious sticking out in the kswapd profile: it's
dominated by cache tree deletions (or rather replacing pages with
shadow entries, hence the misleading xas_store()), tree lock
contention, etc. - all work that a direct reclaimer would have to do
as well, with one exceptions: RWC_UNCACHED doesn't need to go through
the LRU list, and 8-9% of kswapd cycles alone are going into
physically getting pages off the list. (And I suspect part of that is
also contention over the LRU lock as kswapd gets overwhelmed and
direct reclaim kicks in).
Jens, how much throughput difference does kswapd vs RWC_UNCACHED make?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-12-11 21:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-12-11 15:29 [PATCHSET v3 0/5] Support for RWF_UNCACHED Jens Axboe
2019-12-11 15:29 ` [PATCH 1/5] fs: add read support " Jens Axboe
2019-12-11 15:29 ` [PATCH 2/5] mm: make generic_perform_write() take a struct kiocb Jens Axboe
2019-12-11 15:29 ` [PATCH 3/5] mm: make buffered writes work with RWF_UNCACHED Jens Axboe
2019-12-11 15:29 ` [PATCH 4/5] iomap: pass in the write_begin/write_end flags to iomap_actor Jens Axboe
2019-12-11 17:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-12-11 15:29 ` [PATCH 5/5] iomap: support RWF_UNCACHED for buffered writes Jens Axboe
2019-12-11 17:19 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-12-11 18:05 ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-12 22:34 ` Dave Chinner
2019-12-13 0:54 ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-13 0:57 ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-16 4:17 ` Dave Chinner
2019-12-17 14:31 ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-18 0:49 ` Dave Chinner
2019-12-18 1:01 ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-11 17:37 ` [PATCHSET v3 0/5] Support for RWF_UNCACHED Linus Torvalds
2019-12-11 17:56 ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-11 19:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-12-11 19:34 ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-11 20:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-12-11 20:08 ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-11 20:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-12-11 21:04 ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2019-12-12 1:30 ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-11 23:41 ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-12 1:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-12-12 1:11 ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-12 1:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-12-12 1:29 ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-12 1:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-12-12 1:56 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-12-12 2:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-12-12 17:52 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-12-12 18:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-12-12 20:05 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-12-12 1:41 ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-12 1:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-12-12 1:09 ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-12 2:03 ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-12 2:10 ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-12 2:21 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-12-12 2:38 ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-12 22:18 ` Dave Chinner
2019-12-13 1:32 ` Chris Mason
2020-01-07 17:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-01-08 14:09 ` Chris Mason
2020-02-01 10:33 ` Andres Freund
2019-12-11 20:43 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-12-11 20:04 ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-12 10:44 ` Martin Steigerwald
2019-12-12 15:16 ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-12 21:45 ` Martin Steigerwald
2019-12-12 22:15 ` Jens Axboe
2019-12-12 22:18 ` Linus Torvalds
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