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From: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
To: Andrea Vai <andrea.vai@unipv.it>
Cc: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	"Schmid, Carsten" <Carsten_Schmid@mentor.com>,
	Finn Thain <fthain@telegraphics.com.au>,
	Damien Le Moal <Damien.LeMoal@wdc.com>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Johannes Thumshirn <jthumshirn@suse.de>,
	USB list <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	SCSI development list <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Himanshu Madhani <himanshu.madhani@cavium.com>,
	Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.com>, Omar Sandoval <osandov@fb.com>,
	"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Hans Holmberg <Hans.Holmberg@wdc.com>,
	Kernel development list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: AW: Slow I/O on USB media after commit f664a3cc17b7d0a2bc3b3ab96181e1029b0ec0e6
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2019 17:35:19 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191224093519.GA32355@ming.t460p> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0094198b6c3382ee2efbd4431e4ad1bfb8cef269.camel@unipv.it>

On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 09:51:16AM +0100, Andrea Vai wrote:
> Il giorno mar, 24/12/2019 alle 09.27 +0800, Ming Lei ha scritto:
> > Hi Ted,
> > 
> > On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 02:53:01PM -0500, Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote:
> > > On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 07:45:57PM +0100, Andrea Vai wrote:
> > > > basically, it's:
> > > > 
> > > >   mount UUID=$uuid /mnt/pendrive
> > > >   SECONDS=0
> > > >   cp $testfile /mnt/pendrive
> > > >   umount /mnt/pendrive
> > > >   tempo=$SECONDS
> > > > 
> > > > and it copies one file only. Anyway, you can find the whole
> > script
> > > > attached.
> > > 
> > > OK, so whether we are doing the writeback at the end of cp, or
> > when
> > > you do the umount, it's probably not going to make any
> > difference.  We
> > > can get rid of the stack trace in question by changing the script
> > to
> > > be basically:
> > > 
> > > mount UUID=$uuid /mnt/pendrive
> > > SECONDS=0
> > > rm -f /mnt/pendrive/$testfile
> > > cp $testfile /mnt/pendrive
> > > umount /mnt/pendrive
> > > tempo=$SECONDS
> > > 
> > > I predict if you do that, you'll see that all of the time is spent
> > in
> > > the umount, when we are trying to write back the file.
> > > 
> > > I really don't think then this is a file system problem at
> > all.  It's
> > > just that USB I/O is slow, for whatever reason.  We'll see a stack
> > > trace in the writeback code waiting for the I/O to be completed,
> > but
> > > that doesn't mean that the root cause is in the writeback code or
> > in
> > > the file system which is triggering the writeback.
> > 
> > Wrt. the slow write on this usb storage, it is caused by two
> > writeback
> > path, one is the writeback wq, another is from ext4_release_file()
> > which
> > is triggered from exit_to_usermode_loop().
> > 
> > When the two write path is run concurrently, the sequential write
> > order
> > is broken, then write performance drops much on this particular usb
> > storage.
> > 
> > The ext4_release_file() should be run from read() or write() syscall
> > if
> > Fedora 30's 'cp' is implemented correctly. IMO, it isn't expected
> > behavior
> > for ext4_release_file() to be run thousands of times when just
> > running 'cp' once, see comment of ext4_release_file():
> > 
> > 	/*
> > 	 * Called when an inode is released. Note that this is
> > different
> > 	 * from ext4_file_open: open gets called at every open, but
> > release
> > 	 * gets called only when /all/ the files are closed.
> > 	 */
> > 	static int ext4_release_file(struct inode *inode, struct file
> > *filp)
> > 
> > > 
> > > I suspect the next step is use a blktrace, to see what kind of I/O
> > is
> > > being sent to the USB drive, and how long it takes for the I/O to
> > > complete.  You might also try to capture the output of "iostat -x
> > 1"
> > > while the script is running, and see what the difference might be
> > > between a kernel version that has the problem and one that
> > doesn't,
> > > and see if that gives us a clue.
> > 
> > That isn't necessary, given we have concluded that the bad write
> > performance is caused by broken write order.
> > 
> > > 
> > > > > And then send me
> > > > btw, please tell me if "me" means only you or I cc: all the
> > > > recipients, as usual
> > > 
> > > Well, I don't think we know what the root cause is.  Ming is
> > focusing
> > > on that stack trace, but I think it's a red herring.....  And if
> > it's
> > > not a file system problem, then other people will be best suited
> > to
> > > debug the issue.
> > 
> > So far, the reason points to the extra writeback path from
> > exit_to_usermode_loop().
> > If it is not from close() syscall, the issue should be related with
> > file reference
> > count. If it is from close() syscall, the issue might be in 'cp''s
> > implementation.
> > 
> > Andrea, please collect the following log or the strace log requested
> > by Ted, then
> > we can confirm if the extra writeback is from close() or
> > read/write() syscall:
> > 
> > # pass PID of 'cp' to this script
> > #!/bin/sh
> > PID=$1
> > /usr/share/bcc/tools/trace -P $PID  -t -C \
> >     't:block:block_rq_insert "%s %d %d", args->rwbs, args->sector,
> > args->nr_sector' \
> >     't:syscalls:sys_exit_close ' \
> >     't:syscalls:sys_exit_read ' \
> >     't:syscalls:sys_exit_write '
> 
> Meanwhile, I tried to run the test and obtained an error (...usage:
> trace [-h] [-b BUFFER_PAGES] [-p PID]...), so assumed the "-P" should
> be "-p", corrected and obtained the attached log with ext4 and a slow
> copy (2482 seconds) by doing:
> 
> - start the test
> - look at the cp pid
> - run the trace
> - wait for the test to finish
> - stop the trace.

The log shows all io submission is from close() syscall, so fs code
is fine, and I have provided the reason of this issue in last email:

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-scsi/e3dc2a3e0221c0a0beb91172ba2bff1f6acc0cb7.camel@unipv.it/T/#m845caca2969da5676516c35dc0c3528a79beb886

Thanks, 
Ming


  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-24  9:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <307581a490b610c3025ee80f79a465a89d68ed19.camel@unipv.it>
2019-08-20 17:13 ` Slow I/O on USB media after commit f664a3cc17b7d0a2bc3b3ab96181e1029b0ec0e6 Alan Stern
2019-08-23 10:39   ` Andrea Vai
2019-08-23 20:42     ` Alan Stern
2019-08-26  6:09       ` Andrea Vai
2019-08-26 16:33         ` Alan Stern
2019-09-18 15:25           ` Andrea Vai
2019-09-18 16:30             ` Alan Stern
2019-09-19  7:33               ` Andrea Vai
2019-09-19 17:54                 ` Alan Stern
2019-09-20  7:25                   ` Andrea Vai
2019-09-20  7:44                     ` Greg KH
2019-09-19  8:26               ` Damien Le Moal
2019-09-19  8:55                 ` Ming Lei
2019-09-19  9:09                   ` Damien Le Moal
2019-09-19  9:21                     ` Ming Lei
2019-09-19 14:01                 ` Alan Stern
2019-09-19 14:14                   ` Damien Le Moal
2019-09-20  7:03                     ` Andrea Vai
2019-09-25 19:30                       ` Alan Stern
2019-09-25 19:36                         ` Jens Axboe
2019-09-27 15:47                           ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-04 16:00                             ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-04 18:20                               ` Alan Stern
2019-11-05 11:48                                 ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-05 18:31                                   ` Alan Stern
2019-11-05 23:29                                     ` Jens Axboe
2019-11-06 16:03                                       ` Alan Stern
2019-11-06 22:13                                         ` Damien Le Moal
2019-11-07  7:04                                           ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-07  7:54                                             ` Damien Le Moal
2019-11-07 18:59                                               ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-08  8:42                                                 ` Damien Le Moal
2019-11-08 14:33                                                   ` Jens Axboe
2019-11-11 10:46                                                     ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-09 10:09                                                   ` Ming Lei
2019-11-09 22:28                                                 ` Ming Lei
2019-11-11 10:50                                                   ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-11 11:05                                                     ` Ming Lei
2019-11-11 11:13                                                       ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-22 19:16                                                   ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-23  7:28                                                     ` Ming Lei
2019-11-23 15:44                                                       ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-25  3:54                                                         ` Ming Lei
2019-11-25 10:11                                                           ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-25 10:29                                                             ` Ming Lei
2019-11-25 14:58                                                               ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-25 15:15                                                                 ` Ming Lei
2019-11-25 18:51                                                                   ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-26  2:32                                                                     ` Ming Lei
2019-11-26  7:46                                                                       ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-26  9:15                                                                         ` Ming Lei
2019-11-26 10:24                                                                           ` Ming Lei
2019-11-26 11:14                                                                           ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-27  2:05                                                                             ` Ming Lei
2019-11-27  9:39                                                                               ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-27 13:08                                                                                 ` Ming Lei
2019-11-27 15:01                                                                                   ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-27  0:21                                                                         ` Finn Thain
2019-11-27  8:14                                                                           ` AW: " Schmid, Carsten
2019-11-27 21:49                                                                             ` Finn Thain
2019-11-28  7:46                                                                             ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-28  8:12                                                                               ` AW: " Schmid, Carsten
2019-11-28 11:40                                                                                 ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-28 17:39                                                                                 ` Alan Stern
2019-11-28  9:17                                                                               ` Ming Lei
2019-11-28 17:34                                                                                 ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-29  0:57                                                                                   ` Ming Lei
2019-11-29  2:35                                                                                     ` Ming Lei
2019-11-29 14:41                                                                                       ` Andrea Vai
2019-12-03  2:23                                                                                         ` Ming Lei
2019-12-10  7:35                                                                                           ` Andrea Vai
2019-12-10  8:05                                                                                             ` Ming Lei
2019-12-11  2:41                                                                                               ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-12-11  4:00                                                                                                 ` Ming Lei
2019-12-11 16:07                                                                                                   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-12-11 21:33                                                                                                     ` Ming Lei
2019-12-12  7:34                                                                                                       ` Andrea Vai
2019-12-18  8:25                                                                                                       ` Andrea Vai
2019-12-18  9:48                                                                                                         ` Ming Lei
     [not found]                                                                                                           ` <b1b6a0e9d690ecd9432025acd2db4ac09f834040.camel@unipv.it>
2019-12-23 13:08                                                                                                             ` Ming Lei
2019-12-23 14:02                                                                                                               ` Andrea Vai
2019-12-24  1:32                                                                                                                 ` Ming Lei
2019-12-24  8:04                                                                                                                   ` Andrea Vai
2019-12-24  8:47                                                                                                                     ` Ming Lei
2019-12-23 16:26                                                                                                               ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-12-23 16:29                                                                                                                 ` Andrea Vai
2019-12-23 17:22                                                                                                                   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-12-23 18:45                                                                                                                     ` Andrea Vai
2019-12-23 19:53                                                                                                                       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-12-24  1:27                                                                                                                         ` Ming Lei
2019-12-24  6:49                                                                                                                           ` Andrea Vai
2019-12-24  8:51                                                                                                                           ` Andrea Vai
2019-12-24  9:35                                                                                                                             ` Ming Lei [this message]
2019-12-25  5:17                                                                                                                           ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-12-26  2:27                                                                                                                             ` Ming Lei
2019-12-26  3:30                                                                                                                               ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-12-26  8:37                                                                                                                                 ` Ming Lei
2020-01-07  7:51                                                                                                                                   ` Andrea Vai
     [not found]                                                                                                                                 ` <20200101074310.10904-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2020-01-01 13:53                                                                                                                                   ` slow IO on USB media Ming Lei
2019-11-29 11:44                                                                                     ` AW: Slow I/O on USB media after commit f664a3cc17b7d0a2bc3b3ab96181e1029b0ec0e6 Bernd Schubert
2019-12-02  7:01                                                                                       ` Andrea Vai
2019-11-28 17:10                                                                           ` Andrea Vai

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