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From: Wolfram Sang <wsa@the-dreams.de>
To: Luca Ceresoli <luca@lucaceresoli.net>
Cc: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Wolfram Sang <wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com>,
	linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org, linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org,
	Kieran Bingham <kieran@ksquared.org.uk>,
	Jacopo Mondi <jacopo@jmondi.org>,
	Vladimir Zapolskiy <vz@mleia.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/5] i2c: core: add function to request an alias
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 22:13:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200102211327.GB1030@kunai> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e008939f-531d-f7dc-4c3c-937476213030@lucaceresoli.net>

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Hi Luca,

> > This looks quite inefficient, especially if the beginning of the range
> > is populated with devices. Furthermore, I think there's a high risk of
> > false negatives, as acquiring a free address and reprogramming the
> > client to make use of it are separate operations.
> 
> Right. Applying the alias could raise other errors, thus one would need
> i2c_new_alias_device() to keep the alias locked until programming it has
> either failed or has been successfully programmed.

Please see my reply to Laurent, I don't think it is racy. But please
elaborate if you think I am wrong.

> > What happened to the idea of reporting busy address ranges in the
> > firmware (DT, ACPI, ...) ?
> 
> Indeed that's how I remember it as well, and I'm a bit suspicious about
> sending out probe messages that might have side effects (even if the
> false negative issue mentioned by Laurent were solved). You know, I've
> been taught to "expect the worse" :) so I'd like to better understand
> what are the strong reasons in favor of probing, as well as the
> potential side effects.

As I said to Laurent, too, I think the risk that a bus is not fully
described is higher than a device which does not respond to a read_byte.
In both cases, we would wrongly use an address in use.

Also, all the best for you in 2020!

   Wolfram


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  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-02 21:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-31 16:13 [RFC PATCH 0/5] i2c: implement mechanism to retrieve an alias device Wolfram Sang
2019-12-31 16:13 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] i2c: core: refactor scanning for a client Wolfram Sang
2020-01-01 16:45   ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-01-07  9:26   ` Kieran Bingham
2020-01-07  9:53     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-01-07  9:58       ` Kieran Bingham
2020-01-07 10:25       ` Wolfram Sang
2020-01-07 10:36         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-01-07 11:23           ` Wolfram Sang
2020-01-07 15:03             ` Luca Ceresoli
2020-01-07 16:45               ` Wolfram Sang
2020-01-07 16:52                 ` Kieran Bingham
2019-12-31 16:13 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] i2c: core: add new variant to check " Wolfram Sang
2020-01-01 16:49   ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-01-07  9:42   ` Kieran Bingham
2019-12-31 16:13 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] i2c: core: add function to request an alias Wolfram Sang
2020-01-01 16:55   ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-01-02 18:58     ` Luca Ceresoli
2020-01-02 21:13       ` Wolfram Sang [this message]
2020-01-02 22:27         ` Luca Ceresoli
2020-01-03  0:10           ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-01-07 15:03             ` Luca Ceresoli
2020-01-07 17:13               ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-01-08 13:27                 ` Wolfram Sang
2020-01-08 13:31                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-01-08 13:38                     ` Wolfram Sang
2020-01-08 13:22               ` Wolfram Sang
2020-01-08 13:19             ` Wolfram Sang
2020-01-08 13:29               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-01-08 13:34               ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-01-02 21:03     ` Wolfram Sang
2020-01-21  9:05     ` Peter Rosin
2020-01-07  9:40   ` Kieran Bingham
2020-01-07 17:11     ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-01-07 17:14       ` Kieran Bingham
2020-01-08 13:35         ` Wolfram Sang
2020-01-08 13:36           ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-12-31 16:13 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] i2c: core: add simple caching to the 'alias' scanning Wolfram Sang
2020-01-07  9:59   ` Kieran Bingham
2020-01-21  9:22   ` Peter Rosin
2019-12-31 16:14 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] simple test case for the I2C alias functionality Wolfram Sang
2019-12-31 16:27 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] i2c: implement mechanism to retrieve an alias device Wolfram Sang

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