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From: Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Christophe de Dinechin <dinechin@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S . Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	Kevin Kevin <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	"Dr . David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 09/21] KVM: X86: Don't track dirty for KVM_SET_[TSS_ADDR|IDENTITY_MAP_ADDR]
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 10:24:03 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200128182402.GA18652@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200128055005.GB662081@xz-x1>

On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 01:50:05PM +0800, Peter Xu wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 07:56:57AM -0800, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c b/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
> > > index c4d3972dcd14..ff97782b3919 100644
> > > --- a/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
> > > +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
> > > @@ -9584,7 +9584,15 @@ void kvm_arch_sync_events(struct kvm *kvm)
> > >  	kvm_free_pit(kvm);
> > >  }
> > >  
> > > -int __x86_set_memory_region(struct kvm *kvm, int id, gpa_t gpa, u32 size)
> > > +/*
> > > + * If `uaddr' is specified, `*uaddr' will be returned with the
> > > + * userspace address that was just allocated.  `uaddr' is only
> > > + * meaningful if the function returns zero, and `uaddr' will only be
> > > + * valid when with either the slots_lock or with the SRCU read lock
> > > + * held.  After we release the lock, the returned `uaddr' will be invalid.
> > 
> > This is all incorrect.  Neither of those locks has any bearing on the
> > validity of the hva.  slots_lock does as the name suggests and prevents
> > concurrent writes to the memslots.  The SRCU lock ensures the implicit
> > memslots lookup in kvm_clear_guest_page() won't result in a use-after-free
> > due to derefencing old memslots.
> > 
> > Neither of those has anything to do with the userspace address, they're
> > both fully tied to KVM's gfn->hva lookup.  As Paolo pointed out, KVM's
> > mapping is instead tied to the lifecycle of the VM.  Note, even *that* has
> > no bearing on the validity of the mapping or address as KVM only increments
> > mm_count, not mm_users, i.e. guarantees the mm struct itself won't be freed
> > but doesn't ensure the vmas or associated pages tables are valid.
> > 
> > Which is the entire point of using __copy_{to,from}_user(), as they
> > gracefully handle the scenario where the process has not valid mapping
> > and/or translation for the address.
> 
> Sorry I don't understand.
> 
> I do think either the slots_lock or SRCU would protect at least the
> existing kvm.memslots, and if so at least the previous vm_mmap()
> return value should still be valid.

Nope.  kvm->slots_lock only protects gfn->hva lookups, e.g. userspace can
munmap() the range at any time.

> I agree that __copy_to_user() will protect us from many cases from process
> mm pov (which allows page faults inside), but again if the kvm.memslots is
> changed underneath us then it's another story, IMHO, and that's why we need
> either the lock or SRCU.

No, again, slots_lock and SRCU only protect gfn->hva lookups.

> Or are you assuming that (1) __x86_set_memory_region() is only for the
> 3 private kvm memslots, 

It's not an assumption, the entire purpose of __x86_set_memory_region()
is to provide support for private KVM memslots.

> and (2) currently the kvm private memory slots will never change after VM
> is created and before VM is destroyed?

No, I'm not assuming the private memslots are constant, e.g. the flow in
question, vmx_set_tss_addr() is directly tied to an unprotected ioctl().

KVM's sole responsible for vmx_set_tss_addr() is to not crash the kernel.
Userspace is responsible for ensuring it doesn't break its guests, e.g.
that multiple calls to KVM_SET_TSS_ADDR are properly serialized.

In the existing code, KVM ensures it doesn't crash by holding the SRCU lock
for the duration of init_rmode_tss() so that the gfn->hva lookups in
kvm_clear_guest_page() don't dereference a stale memslots array.  In no way
does that ensure the validity of the resulting hva, e.g. multiple calls to
KVM_SET_TSS_ADDR would race to set vmx->tss_addr and so init_rmode_tss()
could be operating on a stale gpa.

Putting the onus on KVM to ensure atomicity is pointless because concurrent
calls to KVM_SET_TSS_ADDR would still race, i.e. the end value of
vmx->tss_addr would be non-deterministic.  The intregrity of the underlying
TSS would be guaranteed, but that guarantee isn't part of KVM's ABI.

> If so, I agree with you.  However I don't see why we need to restrict
> __x86_set_memory_region() with that assumption, after all taking a
> lock is not expensive in this slow path.

In what way would not holding slots_lock in vmx_set_tss_addr() restrict
__x86_set_memory_region()?  Literally every other usage of
__x86_set_memory_region() holds slots_lock for the duration of creating
the private memslot, because in those flows, KVM *is* responsible for
ensuring correct ordering.

> Even if so, we'd better comment above __x86_set_memory_region() about this,
> so we know that we should not use __x86_set_memory_region() for future kvm
> internal memslots that are prone to change during VM's lifecycle (while
> currently it seems to be a very general interface).

There is no such restriction.  Obviously such a flow would need to ensure
correctness, but hopefully that goes without saying.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-28 18:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-09 14:57 [PATCH v3 00/21] KVM: Dirty ring interface Peter Xu
2020-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v3 01/21] vfio: introduce vfio_iova_rw to read/write a range of IOVAs Peter Xu
2020-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v3 02/21] drm/i915/gvt: subsitute kvm_read/write_guest with vfio_iova_rw Peter Xu
2020-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v3 03/21] KVM: Remove kvm_read_guest_atomic() Peter Xu
2020-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v3 04/21] KVM: Add build-time error check on kvm_run size Peter Xu
2020-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v3 05/21] KVM: X86: Change parameter for fast_page_fault tracepoint Peter Xu
2020-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v3 06/21] KVM: X86: Don't take srcu lock in init_rmode_identity_map() Peter Xu
2020-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v3 07/21] KVM: Cache as_id in kvm_memory_slot Peter Xu
2020-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v3 08/21] KVM: X86: Drop x86_set_memory_region() Peter Xu
2020-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v3 09/21] KVM: X86: Don't track dirty for KVM_SET_[TSS_ADDR|IDENTITY_MAP_ADDR] Peter Xu
2020-01-19  9:01   ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-01-20  6:45     ` Peter Xu
2020-01-21 15:56   ` Sean Christopherson
2020-01-21 16:14     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-01-28  5:50     ` Peter Xu
2020-01-28 18:24       ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2020-01-31 15:08         ` Peter Xu
2020-01-31 19:33           ` Sean Christopherson
2020-01-31 20:28             ` Peter Xu
2020-01-31 20:36               ` Sean Christopherson
2020-01-31 20:55                 ` Peter Xu
2020-01-31 21:29                   ` Sean Christopherson
2020-01-31 22:16                     ` Peter Xu
2020-01-31 22:20                       ` Sean Christopherson
2020-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v3 10/21] KVM: Pass in kvm pointer into mark_page_dirty_in_slot() Peter Xu
2020-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v3 11/21] KVM: Move running VCPU from ARM to common code Peter Xu
2020-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v3 12/21] KVM: X86: Implement ring-based dirty memory tracking Peter Xu
2020-01-09 16:29   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-09 16:56     ` Alex Williamson
2020-01-09 19:21       ` Peter Xu
2020-01-09 19:36         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-09 19:15     ` Peter Xu
2020-01-09 19:35       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-09 20:19         ` Peter Xu
2020-01-09 22:18           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-10 15:29             ` Peter Xu
2020-01-12  6:24               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-14 20:01         ` Peter Xu
2020-01-15  6:50           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-15 15:20             ` Peter Xu
2020-01-19  9:09       ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-01-19 10:12         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-20  7:29           ` Peter Xu
2020-01-20  7:47             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-21  8:29               ` Peter Xu
2020-01-21 10:25                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-01-21 10:24             ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-01-11  4:49   ` kbuild test robot
2020-01-11  4:49     ` kbuild test robot
2020-01-11 23:19   ` kbuild test robot
2020-01-11 23:19     ` kbuild test robot
2020-01-15  6:47   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-15 15:27     ` Peter Xu
2020-01-16  8:38   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-16 16:27     ` Peter Xu
2020-01-17  9:50       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-20  6:48         ` Peter Xu
2020-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v3 13/21] KVM: Make dirty ring exclusive to dirty bitmap log Peter Xu
2020-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v3 14/21] KVM: Don't allocate dirty bitmap if dirty ring is enabled Peter Xu
2020-01-09 16:41   ` Peter Xu
2020-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v3 15/21] KVM: selftests: Always clear dirty bitmap after iteration Peter Xu
2020-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v3 16/21] KVM: selftests: Sync uapi/linux/kvm.h to tools/ Peter Xu
2020-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v3 17/21] KVM: selftests: Use a single binary for dirty/clear log test Peter Xu
2020-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v3 18/21] KVM: selftests: Introduce after_vcpu_run hook for dirty " Peter Xu
2020-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v3 19/21] KVM: selftests: Add dirty ring buffer test Peter Xu
2020-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v3 20/21] KVM: selftests: Let dirty_log_test async for dirty ring test Peter Xu
2020-01-09 14:57 ` [PATCH v3 21/21] KVM: selftests: Add "-c" parameter to dirty log test Peter Xu
2020-01-09 15:59 ` [PATCH v3 00/21] KVM: Dirty ring interface Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-09 16:17   ` Peter Xu
2020-01-09 16:40     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-09 17:08       ` Peter Xu
2020-01-09 19:08         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-09 19:39           ` Peter Xu
2020-01-09 20:42             ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-01-09 22:28             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-10 15:10               ` Peter Xu
2020-01-09 16:47 ` Alex Williamson
2020-01-09 17:58   ` Peter Xu
2020-01-09 19:13     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-09 19:23       ` Peter Xu
2020-01-09 19:37         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-09 20:51       ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-01-09 22:21         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-19  9:11 ` Paolo Bonzini

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