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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@mellanox.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Hector Marco-Gisbert <hecmargi@upv.es>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	x86@kernel.org, kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] binfmt_elf: Update READ_IMPLIES_EXEC logic for modern CPUs
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2020 13:17:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200211171733.GN4271@mellanox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200210193049.64362-1-keescook@chromium.org>

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 11:30:42AM -0800, Kees Cook wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> This is a refresh of my earlier attempt to fix READ_IMPLIES_EXEC. I think
> it incorporates the feedback from v2, and I've now added a selftest. This
> series is for x86, arm, and arm64; I'd like it to go via -tip, though,
> just to keep this change together with the selftest. To that end, I'd like
> to collect Acks from the respective architecture maintainers. (Note that
> most other architectures don't suffer from this problem. e.g. powerpc's
> behavior appears to already be correct. MIPS may need adjusting but the
> history of CPU features and toolchain behavior is very unclear to me.)
> 
> Repeating the commit log from later in the series:
> 
> 
> The READ_IMPLIES_EXEC work-around was designed for old toolchains that
> lacked the ELF PT_GNU_STACK marking under the assumption that toolchains
> that couldn't specify executable permission flags for the stack may not
> know how to do it correctly for any memory region.
> 
> This logic is sensible for having ancient binaries coexist in a system
> with possibly NX memory, but was implemented in a way that equated having
> a PT_GNU_STACK marked executable as being as "broken" as lacking the
> PT_GNU_STACK marking entirely. Things like unmarked assembly and stack
> trampolines may cause PT_GNU_STACK to need an executable bit, but they
> do not imply all mappings must be executable.
> 
> This confusion has led to situations where modern programs with explicitly
> marked executable stack are forced into the READ_IMPLIES_EXEC state when
> no such thing is needed. (And leads to unexpected failures when mmap()ing
> regions of device driver memory that wish to disallow VM_EXEC[1].)
> 
> In looking for other reasons for the READ_IMPLIES_EXEC behavior, Jann
> Horn noted that glibc thread stacks have always been marked RWX (until
> 2003 when they started tracking the PT_GNU_STACK flag instead[2]). And
> musl doesn't support executable stacks at all[3]. As such, no breakage
> for multithreaded applications is expected from this change.
> 
> [1] https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20190418055759.GA3155@mellanox.com
> [2] https://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=commitdiff;h=54ee14b3882
> [3] https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20190423192534.GN23599@brightrain.aerifal.cx

I'm happy to see this, I think it will help the situation.

While I'm not well versed in all the historical details, the general
approach makes sense to me and I've looked through the patches.

I would like to follow this up with a patch to again block VM_EXEC
from the RDMA related mmap of BAR paths..

Reviewed-by: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@mellanox.com>

Jason

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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@mellanox.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, Hector Marco-Gisbert <hecmargi@upv.es>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] binfmt_elf: Update READ_IMPLIES_EXEC logic for modern CPUs
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2020 13:17:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200211171733.GN4271@mellanox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200210193049.64362-1-keescook@chromium.org>

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 11:30:42AM -0800, Kees Cook wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> This is a refresh of my earlier attempt to fix READ_IMPLIES_EXEC. I think
> it incorporates the feedback from v2, and I've now added a selftest. This
> series is for x86, arm, and arm64; I'd like it to go via -tip, though,
> just to keep this change together with the selftest. To that end, I'd like
> to collect Acks from the respective architecture maintainers. (Note that
> most other architectures don't suffer from this problem. e.g. powerpc's
> behavior appears to already be correct. MIPS may need adjusting but the
> history of CPU features and toolchain behavior is very unclear to me.)
> 
> Repeating the commit log from later in the series:
> 
> 
> The READ_IMPLIES_EXEC work-around was designed for old toolchains that
> lacked the ELF PT_GNU_STACK marking under the assumption that toolchains
> that couldn't specify executable permission flags for the stack may not
> know how to do it correctly for any memory region.
> 
> This logic is sensible for having ancient binaries coexist in a system
> with possibly NX memory, but was implemented in a way that equated having
> a PT_GNU_STACK marked executable as being as "broken" as lacking the
> PT_GNU_STACK marking entirely. Things like unmarked assembly and stack
> trampolines may cause PT_GNU_STACK to need an executable bit, but they
> do not imply all mappings must be executable.
> 
> This confusion has led to situations where modern programs with explicitly
> marked executable stack are forced into the READ_IMPLIES_EXEC state when
> no such thing is needed. (And leads to unexpected failures when mmap()ing
> regions of device driver memory that wish to disallow VM_EXEC[1].)
> 
> In looking for other reasons for the READ_IMPLIES_EXEC behavior, Jann
> Horn noted that glibc thread stacks have always been marked RWX (until
> 2003 when they started tracking the PT_GNU_STACK flag instead[2]). And
> musl doesn't support executable stacks at all[3]. As such, no breakage
> for multithreaded applications is expected from this change.
> 
> [1] https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20190418055759.GA3155@mellanox.com
> [2] https://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=commitdiff;h=54ee14b3882
> [3] https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20190423192534.GN23599@brightrain.aerifal.cx

I'm happy to see this, I think it will help the situation.

While I'm not well versed in all the historical details, the general
approach makes sense to me and I've looked through the patches.

I would like to follow this up with a patch to again block VM_EXEC
from the RDMA related mmap of BAR paths..

Reviewed-by: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@mellanox.com>

Jason

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-02-11 17:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-10 19:30 [PATCH v3 0/7] binfmt_elf: Update READ_IMPLIES_EXEC logic for modern CPUs Kees Cook
2020-02-10 19:30 ` Kees Cook
2020-02-10 19:30 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] x86/elf: Add table to document READ_IMPLIES_EXEC Kees Cook
2020-02-10 19:30   ` Kees Cook
2020-02-10 19:30 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] x86/elf: Split READ_IMPLIES_EXEC from executable GNU_STACK Kees Cook
2020-02-10 19:30   ` Kees Cook
2020-02-10 19:30 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] x86/elf: Disable automatic READ_IMPLIES_EXEC for 64-bit address spaces Kees Cook
2020-02-10 19:30   ` Kees Cook
2020-02-10 19:30 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] arm32/64, elf: Add tables to document READ_IMPLIES_EXEC Kees Cook
2020-02-10 19:30   ` Kees Cook
2020-02-12  9:27   ` Catalin Marinas
2020-02-12  9:27     ` Catalin Marinas
2020-02-10 19:30 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] arm32/64, elf: Split READ_IMPLIES_EXEC from executable GNU_STACK Kees Cook
2020-02-10 19:30   ` Kees Cook
2020-02-12  9:27   ` Catalin Marinas
2020-02-12  9:27     ` Catalin Marinas
2020-02-10 19:30 ` [PATCH v3 6/7] arm64, elf: Disable automatic READ_IMPLIES_EXEC for 64-bit address spaces Kees Cook
2020-02-10 19:30   ` Kees Cook
2020-02-12  9:28   ` Catalin Marinas
2020-02-12  9:28     ` Catalin Marinas
2020-02-10 19:30 ` [PATCH v3 7/7] selftests/exec: Add READ_IMPLIES_EXEC tests Kees Cook
2020-02-10 19:30   ` Kees Cook
2020-02-11 18:11   ` shuah
2020-02-11 18:11     ` shuah
2020-02-11 19:25     ` Kees Cook
2020-02-11 19:25       ` Kees Cook
2020-02-11 21:06       ` shuah
2020-02-11 21:06         ` shuah
2020-02-11 23:54         ` Kees Cook
2020-02-11 23:54           ` Kees Cook
2020-02-12  0:02           ` shuah
2020-02-12  0:02             ` shuah
2020-02-11 17:17 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2020-02-11 17:17   ` [PATCH v3 0/7] binfmt_elf: Update READ_IMPLIES_EXEC logic for modern CPUs Jason Gunthorpe

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