From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10202C10DCE for ; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 14:53:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from silver.osuosl.org (smtp3.osuosl.org [140.211.166.136]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CFDCE206FA for ; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 14:53:05 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org CFDCE206FA Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=mit.edu Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=ksummit-discuss-bounces@lists.linuxfoundation.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by silver.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A292755F; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 14:53:05 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org Received: from silver.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 72px1qsVgAGX; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 14:53:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lists.linuxfoundation.org (lf-lists.osuosl.org [140.211.9.56]) by silver.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE00E2639B; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 14:53:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lf-lists.osuosl.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A165CC18D3; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 14:53:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hemlock.osuosl.org (smtp2.osuosl.org [140.211.166.133]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E026BC0177; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 14:53:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hemlock.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BE818846E; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 14:52:45 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org Received: from hemlock.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wQtPazavE90E; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 14:52:44 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu [18.9.28.11]) by hemlock.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B83838846B; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 14:52:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from callcc.thunk.org (pool-72-93-95-157.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [72.93.95.157]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id 02DEq6H9007099 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 13 Mar 2020 10:52:06 -0400 Received: by callcc.thunk.org (Postfix, from userid 15806) id 25BB9420E5E; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 10:52:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 10:52:06 -0400 From: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" To: Jani Nikula Message-ID: <20200313145206.GE225435@mit.edu> References: <20200313031947.GC225435@mit.edu> <87d09gljhj.fsf@intel.com> <20200313093548.GA2089143@kroah.com> <24c64c56-947b-4267-33b8-49a22f719c81@suse.cz> <20200313100755.GA2161605@kroah.com> <20200313103720.GA2215823@kroah.com> <20200313081216.627c5bdf@gandalf.local.home> <874kusl50q.fsf@intel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <874kusl50q.fsf@intel.com> Cc: "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "tech-board-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , Vlastimil Babka Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] Linux Foundation Technical Advisory Board Elections -- Change to charter X-BeenThere: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ksummit-discuss-bounces@lists.linuxfoundation.org Sender: "Ksummit-discuss" On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 04:10:29PM +0200, Jani Nikula wrote: > > Have you considered whether the eligibility for running and voting > should be made the same? As it is, absolutely anyone can self-nominate > and run. That's always been the case. However, at least historically, people who weren't physically present has never been successful. One of the changes last year with the adoption of electronic voting was there was only a written nomination statement and not a short spoken statement before the vote. - Ted _______________________________________________ Ksummit-discuss mailing list Ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ksummit-discuss From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 10:52:06 -0400 From: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" Message-ID: <20200313145206.GE225435@mit.edu> References: <20200313031947.GC225435@mit.edu> <87d09gljhj.fsf@intel.com> <20200313093548.GA2089143@kroah.com> <24c64c56-947b-4267-33b8-49a22f719c81@suse.cz> <20200313100755.GA2161605@kroah.com> <20200313103720.GA2215823@kroah.com> <20200313081216.627c5bdf@gandalf.local.home> <874kusl50q.fsf@intel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <874kusl50q.fsf@intel.com> Subject: Re: [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] Linux Foundation Technical Advisory Board Elections -- Change to charter List-Id: Public TAB discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Jani Nikula Cc: "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "tech-board-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , Geert Uytterhoeven , Vlastimil Babka On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 04:10:29PM +0200, Jani Nikula wrote: > > Have you considered whether the eligibility for running and voting > should be made the same? As it is, absolutely anyone can self-nominate > and run. That's always been the case. However, at least historically, people who weren't physically present has never been successful. One of the changes last year with the adoption of electronic voting was there was only a written nomination statement and not a short spoken statement before the vote. - Ted From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAD42C10DCE for ; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 14:52:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A405A206FA for ; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 14:52:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726691AbgCMOww (ORCPT ); Fri, 13 Mar 2020 10:52:52 -0400 Received: from outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu ([18.9.28.11]:37579 "EHLO outgoing.mit.edu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726643AbgCMOww (ORCPT ); Fri, 13 Mar 2020 10:52:52 -0400 Received: from callcc.thunk.org (pool-72-93-95-157.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [72.93.95.157]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id 02DEq6H9007099 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 13 Mar 2020 10:52:06 -0400 Received: by callcc.thunk.org (Postfix, from userid 15806) id 25BB9420E5E; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 10:52:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 10:52:06 -0400 From: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" To: Jani Nikula Cc: Steven Rostedt , Geert Uytterhoeven , "tech-board-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , Vlastimil Babka , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" Subject: Re: [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] Linux Foundation Technical Advisory Board Elections -- Change to charter Message-ID: <20200313145206.GE225435@mit.edu> References: <20200313031947.GC225435@mit.edu> <87d09gljhj.fsf@intel.com> <20200313093548.GA2089143@kroah.com> <24c64c56-947b-4267-33b8-49a22f719c81@suse.cz> <20200313100755.GA2161605@kroah.com> <20200313103720.GA2215823@kroah.com> <20200313081216.627c5bdf@gandalf.local.home> <874kusl50q.fsf@intel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <874kusl50q.fsf@intel.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 04:10:29PM +0200, Jani Nikula wrote: > > Have you considered whether the eligibility for running and voting > should be made the same? As it is, absolutely anyone can self-nominate > and run. That's always been the case. However, at least historically, people who weren't physically present has never been successful. One of the changes last year with the adoption of electronic voting was there was only a written nomination statement and not a short spoken statement before the vote. - Ted