From: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Jaewon Kim <jaewon31.kim@samsung.com>,
adobriyan@gmail.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
labbott@redhat.com, sumit.semwal@linaro.org, minchan@kernel.org,
ngupta@vflare.org, sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
jaewon31.kim@gmail.com, Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] meminfo: introduce extra meminfo
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 19:48:27 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200313174827.GA67638@unreal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <af4ace34-0db2-dd17-351f-eaa806f0a6ac@suse.cz>
On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 04:19:36PM +0100, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> +CC linux-api, please include in future versions as well
>
> On 3/11/20 4:44 AM, Jaewon Kim wrote:
> > /proc/meminfo or show_free_areas does not show full system wide memory
> > usage status. There seems to be huge hidden memory especially on
> > embedded Android system. Because it usually have some HW IP which do not
> > have internal memory and use common DRAM memory.
> >
> > In Android system, most of those hidden memory seems to be vmalloc pages
> > , ion system heap memory, graphics memory, and memory for DRAM based
> > compressed swap storage. They may be shown in other node but it seems to
> > useful if /proc/meminfo shows all those extra memory information. And
> > show_mem also need to print the info in oom situation.
> >
> > Fortunately vmalloc pages is alread shown by commit 97105f0ab7b8
> > ("mm: vmalloc: show number of vmalloc pages in /proc/meminfo"). Swap
> > memory using zsmalloc can be seen through vmstat by commit 91537fee0013
> > ("mm: add NR_ZSMALLOC to vmstat") but not on /proc/meminfo.
> >
> > Memory usage of specific driver can be various so that showing the usage
> > through upstream meminfo.c is not easy. To print the extra memory usage
> > of a driver, introduce following APIs. Each driver needs to count as
> > atomic_long_t.
> >
> > int register_extra_meminfo(atomic_long_t *val, int shift,
> > const char *name);
> > int unregister_extra_meminfo(atomic_long_t *val);
> >
> > Currently register ION system heap allocator and zsmalloc pages.
> > Additionally tested on local graphics driver.
> >
> > i.e) cat /proc/meminfo | tail -3
> > IonSystemHeap: 242620 kB
> > ZsPages: 203860 kB
> > GraphicDriver: 196576 kB
> >
> > i.e.) show_mem on oom
> > <6>[ 420.856428] Mem-Info:
> > <6>[ 420.856433] IonSystemHeap:32813kB ZsPages:44114kB GraphicDriver::13091kB
> > <6>[ 420.856450] active_anon:957205 inactive_anon:159383 isolated_anon:0
>
> I like the idea and the dynamic nature of this, so that drivers not present
> wouldn't add lots of useless zeroes to the output.
> It also makes simpler the decisions of "what is important enough to need its own
> meminfo entry".
>
> The suggestion for hunting per-driver /sys files would only work if there was a
> common name to such files so once can find(1) them easily.
> It also doesn't work for the oom/failed alloc warning output.
Of course there is a need to have a stable name for such an output, this
is why driver/core should be responsible for that and not drivers authors.
The use case which I had in mind slightly different than to look after OOM.
I'm interested to optimize our drivers in their memory footprint to
allow better scale in SR-IOV mode where one device creates many separate
copies of itself. Those copies easily can take gigabytes of RAM due to
the need to optimize for high-performance networking. Sometimes the
amount of memory and not HW is actually limits the scale factor.
So I would imagine this feature being used as an aid for the driver
developers and not for the runtime decisions.
My 2-cents.
Thanks
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2020-03-11 3:44 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] meminfo: introduce extra meminfo Jaewon Kim
2020-03-11 3:44 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] proc/meminfo: " Jaewon Kim
2020-03-11 6:18 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-03-11 6:25 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-03-11 6:30 ` Jaewon Kim
2020-03-11 7:36 ` kbuild test robot
2020-03-11 7:51 ` kbuild test robot
2020-03-11 8:55 ` kbuild test robot
2020-03-11 17:35 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2020-03-13 4:53 ` Jaewon Kim
2020-03-11 3:44 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] mm: zsmalloc: include zs page size in proc/meminfo Jaewon Kim
2020-03-11 3:44 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] android: ion: include system heap " Jaewon Kim
2020-03-11 7:25 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] meminfo: introduce extra meminfo Leon Romanovsky
2020-03-13 4:39 ` Jaewon Kim
2020-03-13 7:21 ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-03-13 15:19 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-03-13 17:48 ` Leon Romanovsky [this message]
2020-03-16 4:07 ` Jaewon Kim
2020-03-16 8:31 ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-03-17 3:04 ` Jaewon Kim
2020-03-17 14:37 ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-03-18 8:58 ` Jaewon Kim
2020-03-18 10:58 ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-03-20 10:00 ` Dave Young
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