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From: George Spelvin <lkml@SDF.ORG>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	lkml@sdf.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm/shuffle.c: Fix races in add_to_free_area_random()
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2020 21:02:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200318210232.GB16083@SDF.ORG> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPcyv4jAWRteWd-bgy5FHV=ks=aGXvKM9VMSu+HEDtGoU_AR3g@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 12:40:33PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
> Yes, editorializing on unlikely(). Specifically I would normally ask
> for perf numbers to show that the hint is worth it, but I talked
> myself out of asking for that in this case.

Ah, now I understand!  Yes, it's just gilding the lily, but as long as I 
was messing about in the area it seemed worth adding.

You're saying that if the code were a hotter code path, you'd want 
benchmarks, but given its actual infrequent usage, you're satisfied with 
the argument that it's probably right; it's not like we've crippled the 
kernel even if wrong.

> I'm referring to this:
> 
>       if (is_shuffle_order(order))
>                 add_to_free_area_random(page, &zone->free_area[order],
> 
> Where shuffle order is MAX_ORDER-1. I.e. this code is only triggered
> when we might be releasing a 4MB buddy-page.

Ding!  Okay, now it makes sense.  I didn't look that far up the call
stack.  I was auditing each and every call to a get_random function in
the kernel, when I came across this call site, struggled to understand
what it was doing, and rewrote it to be less wrong.

I only vaguely understand where it fits into the larger mm/ system
so I never noticed that condition on its use.

Yes, given that infrequent use, I'm even happier that I focused on code
size rather than performance.

Thank you for taking the time to explain.


  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-18 21:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-17 13:50 [PATCH] mm/shuffle.c: optimize add_to_free_area_random() George Spelvin
2020-03-17 21:44 ` Kees Cook
2020-03-17 23:06   ` George Spelvin
2020-03-17 23:38     ` Kees Cook
2020-03-18  1:44       ` [PATCH v2] mm/shuffle.c: Fix races in add_to_free_area_random() George Spelvin
2020-03-18  1:49         ` Randy Dunlap
2020-03-18  3:53         ` Dan Williams
2020-03-18  8:20           ` George Spelvin
2020-03-18 17:36             ` Dan Williams
2020-03-18 19:29               ` George Spelvin
2020-03-18 19:40                 ` Dan Williams
2020-03-18 21:02                   ` George Spelvin [this message]
2020-03-18  3:58         ` Kees Cook
2020-03-18 15:26         ` Alexander Duyck
2020-03-18 18:35           ` George Spelvin
2020-03-18 19:17             ` Alexander Duyck
2020-03-18 20:06               ` George Spelvin
2020-03-18 20:39         ` [PATCH v3] " George Spelvin
2020-03-18 21:34           ` Alexander Duyck
2020-03-18 22:49             ` George Spelvin
2020-03-18 22:57               ` Dan Williams
2020-03-18 23:18                 ` George Spelvin
2020-03-19 12:05           ` [PATCH v4] " George Spelvin
2020-03-19 17:49             ` Alexander Duyck
2020-03-20 17:58             ` Kees Cook

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