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From: Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>
To: Edward Cree <ecree@solarflare.com>
Cc: Or Gerlitz <gerlitz.or@gmail.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Stable <stable@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Netdev List <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@mellanox.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH AUTOSEL 4.9 09/26] net/mlx5e: Init ethtool steering for representors
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 20:00:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200416000009.GL1068@sasha-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41174e71-00e1-aebf-b67d-1b24731e4ab3@solarflare.com>

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 05:18:38PM +0100, Edward Cree wrote:
>Firstly, let me apologise: my previous email was too harsh and too
> assertiveabout things that were really more uncertain and unclear.
>
>On 14/04/2020 21:57, Sasha Levin wrote:
>> I've pointed out that almost 50% of commits tagged for stable do not
>> have a fixes tag, and yet they are fixes. You really deduce things based
>> on coin flip probability?
>Yes, but far less than 50% of commits *not* tagged for stable have a fixes
> tag.  It's not about hard-and-fast Aristotelian "deductions", like "this
> doesn't have Fixes:, therefore it is not a stable candidate", it's about
> probabilistic "induction".
>
>> "it does increase the amount of countervailing evidence needed to
>> conclude a commit is a fix" - Please explain this argument given the
>> above.
>Are you familiar with Bayesian statistics?  If not, I'd suggest reading
> something like http://yudkowsky.net/rational/bayes/ which explains it.
>There's a big difference between a coin flip and a _correlated_ coin flip.

I'd maybe point out that the selection process is based on a neural
network which knows about the existence of a Fixes tag in a commit.

It does exactly what you're describing, but also taking a bunch more
factors into it's desicion process ("panic"? "oops"? "overflow"? etc).

>> This is great, but the kernel is more than just net/. Note that I also
>> do not look at net/ itself, but rather drivers/net/ as those end up with
>> a bunch of missed fixes.
>drivers/net/ goes through the same DaveM net/net-next trees, with the
> same rules.

Let me put my Microsoft employee hat on here. We have driver/net/hyperv/
which definitely wasn't getting all the fixes it should have been
getting without AUTOSEL.

While net/ is doing great, drivers/net/ is not. If it's indeed following
the same rules then we need to talk about how we get done right.

I really have no objection to not looking in drivers/net/, it's just
that the experience I had with the process suggests that it's not
following the same process as net/.

-- 
Thanks,
Sasha

  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-16  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-11 23:13 [PATCH AUTOSEL 4.9 01/26] net: wan: wanxl: use allow to pass CROSS_COMPILE_M68k for rebuilding firmware Sasha Levin
2020-04-11 23:13 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 4.9 02/26] net: phy: probe PHY drivers synchronously Sasha Levin
2020-04-11 23:13 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 4.9 03/26] serial: 8250_omap: Fix sleeping function called from invalid context during probe Sasha Levin
2020-04-11 23:13 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 4.9 04/26] net: phy: mscc: accept all RGMII species in vsc85xx_mac_if_set Sasha Levin
2020-04-11 23:13 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 4.9 05/26] RDMA/cm: Add missing locking around id.state in cm_dup_req_handler Sasha Levin
2020-04-11 23:13 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 4.9 06/26] mwifiex: set needed_headroom, not hard_header_len Sasha Levin
2020-04-11 23:13 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 4.9 07/26] Bluetooth: L2CAP: handle l2cap config request during open state Sasha Levin
2020-04-11 23:13 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 4.9 08/26] drm/tegra: dc: Release PM and RGB output when client's registration fails Sasha Levin
2020-04-11 23:13   ` Sasha Levin
2020-04-11 23:13 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 4.9 09/26] net/mlx5e: Init ethtool steering for representors Sasha Levin
2020-04-12  7:10   ` Or Gerlitz
2020-04-12 17:59     ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-04-12 18:29       ` Or Gerlitz
2020-04-14  1:56       ` Sasha Levin
2020-04-14  7:16         ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-04-14 10:22         ` Or Gerlitz
2020-04-14 11:09           ` Greg KH
2020-04-14 14:38             ` Or Gerlitz
2020-04-14 15:16               ` Sasha Levin
2020-04-14 15:49               ` Edward Cree
2020-04-14 17:37                 ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-04-14 19:03                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-04-14 21:00                   ` Sasha Levin
2020-04-14 22:50                   ` Michal Kubecek
2020-04-15  5:31                     ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-04-15 14:07                     ` Sasha Levin
2020-04-14 20:57                 ` Sasha Levin
2020-04-15 16:18                   ` Edward Cree
2020-04-16  0:00                     ` Sasha Levin [this message]
2020-04-16  4:08                       ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-16  5:24                         ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-04-16 13:30                           ` Sasha Levin
2020-04-16 19:07                             ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-16 19:58                               ` Sasha Levin
2020-04-16 21:08                                 ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-17  8:28                                   ` gregkh
2020-04-17 22:23                                     ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-18 10:51                                       ` gregkh
2020-04-17 13:21                                   ` Sasha Levin
2020-04-17 22:38                                     ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-16 13:40                       ` Or Gerlitz
2020-04-16 14:04                         ` Sasha Levin
2020-04-16 14:17                           ` Or Gerlitz
2020-04-16 14:36                             ` Sasha Levin
2020-04-16 17:20                         ` Greg KH
2020-04-16 19:31                           ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-16 19:53                             ` Sasha Levin
2020-04-16 21:32                               ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-16 23:23                                 ` Sasha Levin
2020-04-21  3:07                                   ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-16 20:08                             ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-04-16 21:11                               ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-17  8:25                                 ` gregkh
2020-04-16 16:06                       ` Edward Cree
2020-04-16 18:49                         ` Sasha Levin
2020-04-20 11:45                           ` Edward Cree
2020-04-20 12:53                             ` Sasha Levin
2020-04-11 23:13 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 4.9 10/26] Bluetooth: Fix calculation of SCO handle for packet processing Sasha Levin
2020-04-11 23:13 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 4.9 11/26] Bluetooth: guard against controllers sending zero'd events Sasha Levin
2020-04-11 23:13 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 4.9 12/26] RDMA/rxe: Fix configuration of atomic queue pair attributes Sasha Levin
2020-04-11 23:14 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH AUTOSEL 4.9 13/26] net: intel: e1000e: fix possible sleep-in-atomic-context bugs in e1000e_get_hw_semaphore() Sasha Levin
2020-04-11 23:14   ` Sasha Levin
2020-04-11 23:14 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 4.9 14/26] crypto: tcrypt - fix printed skcipher [a]sync mode Sasha Levin
2020-04-11 23:14 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 4.9 15/26] drm/omap: fix possible object reference leak Sasha Levin
2020-04-11 23:14   ` Sasha Levin
2020-04-11 23:14 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 4.9 16/26] audit: CONFIG_CHANGE don't log internal bookkeeping as an event Sasha Levin
2020-04-11 23:14   ` Sasha Levin
2020-04-11 23:14 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 4.9 17/26] Bluetooth: btusb: Add support for 13d3:3548 Realtek 8822CE device Sasha Levin
2020-04-11 23:14 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 4.9 18/26] scsi: lpfc: Fix RQ buffer leakage when no IOCBs available Sasha Levin
2020-04-11 23:14 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 4.9 19/26] Bluetooth: RFCOMM: fix ODEBUG bug in rfcomm_dev_ioctl Sasha Levin
2020-04-11 23:14 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 4.9 20/26] brcmfmac: Fix driver crash on USB control transfer timeout Sasha Levin
2020-04-11 23:14 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 4.9 21/26] RDMA/cm: Update num_paths in cma_resolve_iboe_route error flow Sasha Levin
2020-04-11 23:14 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 4.9 22/26] ASoC: Intel: Skylake: Enable codec wakeup during chip init Sasha Levin
2020-04-11 23:14   ` Sasha Levin
2020-04-11 23:14 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 4.9 23/26] dmaengine: stm32-dma: use reset controller only at probe time Sasha Levin
2020-04-11 23:14   ` Sasha Levin
2020-04-11 23:14 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 4.9 24/26] scsi: ufs: Fix ufshcd_hold() caused scheduling while atomic Sasha Levin
2020-04-11 23:14   ` Sasha Levin
2020-04-11 23:14   ` Sasha Levin
2020-04-11 23:14 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 4.9 25/26] ext4: check for non-zero journal inum in ext4_calculate_overhead Sasha Levin
2020-04-11 23:14 ` [PATCH AUTOSEL 4.9 26/26] svcrdma: Fix leak of transport addresses Sasha Levin

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