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From: Aaron Lu <aaron.lwe@gmail.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: "Vineeth Remanan Pillai" <vpillai@digitalocean.com>,
	"Nishanth Aravamudan" <naravamudan@digitalocean.com>,
	"Julien Desfossez" <jdesfossez@digitalocean.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH updated v2] sched/fair: core wide cfs task priority comparison
Date: Sat, 16 May 2020 11:42:30 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200516034230.GA72980@aaronlu-desktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200514130248.GD2940@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 03:02:48PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, May 08, 2020 at 08:34:57PM +0800, Aaron Lu wrote:
> > With this said, I realized a workaround for the issue described above:
> > when the core went from 'compatible mode'(step 1-3) to 'incompatible
> > mode'(step 4), reset all root level sched entities' vruntime to be the
> > same as the core wide min_vruntime. After all, the core is transforming
> > from two runqueue mode to single runqueue mode... I think this can solve
> > the issue to some extent but I may miss other scenarios.
> 
> A little something like so, this syncs min_vruntime when we switch to
> single queue mode. This is very much SMT2 only, I got my head in twist
> when thikning about more siblings, I'll have to try again later.

Thanks a lot for the patch, I now see that "there is no need to adjust
every se's vruntime". :-)

> This very much retains the horrible approximation of S we always do.
> 
> Also, it is _completely_ untested...

I've been testing it.

One problem below.

> --- a/kernel/sched/core.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
> @@ -4293,10 +4281,11 @@ static struct task_struct *
>  pick_next_task(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *prev, struct rq_flags *rf)
>  {
>  	struct task_struct *next, *max = NULL;
> +	int old_active = 0, new_active = 0;
>  	const struct sched_class *class;
>  	const struct cpumask *smt_mask;
> -	int i, j, cpu;
>  	bool need_sync = false;
> +	int i, j, cpu;
>  
>  	cpu = cpu_of(rq);
>  	if (cpu_is_offline(cpu))
> @@ -4349,10 +4338,14 @@ pick_next_task(struct rq *rq, struct tas
>  		rq_i->core_pick = NULL;
>  
>  		if (rq_i->core_forceidle) {
> +			// XXX is_idle_task(rq_i->curr) && rq_i->nr_running ??
>  			need_sync = true;
>  			rq_i->core_forceidle = false;
>  		}
>  
> +		if (!is_idle_task(rq_i->curr))
> +			old_active++;
> +
>  		if (i != cpu)
>  			update_rq_clock(rq_i);
>  	}
> @@ -4463,8 +4456,12 @@ next_class:;
>  
>  		WARN_ON_ONCE(!rq_i->core_pick);
>  
> -		if (is_idle_task(rq_i->core_pick) && rq_i->nr_running)
> -			rq_i->core_forceidle = true;
> +		if (is_idle_task(rq_i->core_pick)) {
> +			if (rq_i->nr_running)
> +				rq_i->core_forceidle = true;
> +		} else {
> +			new_active++;
> +		}
>  
>  		if (i == cpu)
>  			continue;
> @@ -4476,6 +4473,16 @@ next_class:;
>  		WARN_ON_ONCE(!cookie_match(next, rq_i->core_pick));
>  	}
>  
> +	/* XXX SMT2 only */
> +	if (new_active == 1 && old_active > 1) {

There is a case when incompatible task appears but we failed to 'drop
into single-rq mode' per the above condition check. The TLDR is: when
there is a task that sits on the sibling rq with the same cookie as
'max', new_active will be 2 instead of 1 and that would cause us missing
the chance to do a sync of core min_vruntime.

This is how it happens:
1) 2 tasks of the same cgroup with different weight running on 2 siblings,
   say cg0_A with weight 1024 bound at cpu0 and cg0_B with weight 2 bound
   at cpu1(assume cpu0 and cpu1 are siblings);
2) Since new_active == 2, we didn't trigger min_vruntime sync. For
   simplicity, let's assume both siblings' root cfs_rq's min_vruntime and
   core_vruntime are all at 0 now;
3) let the two tasks run a while;
4) a new task cg1_C of another cgroup gets queued on cpu1. Since cpu1's
   existing task has a very small weight, its cfs_rq's min_vruntime can
   be much larger than cpu0's cfs_rq min_vruntime. So cg1_C's vruntime is
   much larger than cg0_A's and the 'max' of the core wide task
   selection goes to cg0_A;
5) Now I suppose we should drop into single-rq mode and by doing a sync
   of core min_vruntime, cg1_C's turn shall come. But the problem is, our
   current selection logic prefer not to waste CPU time so after decides
   cg0_A as the 'max', the sibling will also do a cookie_pick() and
   get cg0_B to run. This is where problem asises: new_active is 2
   instead of the expected 1.
6) Due to we didn't do the sync of core min_vruntime, the newly queued
   cg1_C shall wait a long time before cg0_A's vruntime catches up.

One naive way of precisely determine when to drop into single-rq mode is
to track how many tasks of a particular tag exists and use that to
decide if the core is in compatible mode(all tasks belong to the same
cgroup, IOW, have the same core_cookie) or not and act accordingly,
except that: does this sound too complex and inefficient?...

> +		/*
> +		 * We just dropped into single-rq mode, increment the sequence
> +		 * count to trigger the vruntime sync.
> +		 */
> +		rq->core->core_sync_seq++;
> +	}
> +	rq->core->core_active = new_active;
> +
>  done:
>  	set_next_task(rq, next);
>  	return next;

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-05-16  3:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-04 16:59 [RFC PATCH 00/13] Core scheduling v5 vpillai
2020-03-04 16:59 ` [RFC PATCH 01/13] sched: Wrap rq::lock access vpillai
2020-03-04 16:59 ` [RFC PATCH 02/13] sched: Introduce sched_class::pick_task() vpillai
2020-03-04 16:59 ` [RFC PATCH 03/13] sched: Core-wide rq->lock vpillai
2020-04-01 11:42   ` [PATCH] sched/arm64: store cpu topology before notify_cpu_starting Cheng Jian
2020-04-01 13:23     ` Valentin Schneider
2020-04-01 13:23       ` Valentin Schneider
2020-04-06  8:00       ` chengjian (D)
2020-04-06  8:00         ` chengjian (D)
2020-04-09  9:59       ` Sudeep Holla
2020-04-09  9:59         ` Sudeep Holla
2020-04-09 10:32         ` Valentin Schneider
2020-04-09 10:32           ` Valentin Schneider
2020-04-09 11:08           ` Sudeep Holla
2020-04-09 11:08             ` Sudeep Holla
2020-04-09 17:54     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-04-10 13:49       ` chengjian (D)
2020-04-14 11:36   ` [RFC PATCH 03/13] sched: Core-wide rq->lock Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-14 21:35     ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2020-04-15 10:55       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-14 14:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-03-04 16:59 ` [RFC PATCH 04/13] sched/fair: Add a few assertions vpillai
2020-03-04 16:59 ` [RFC PATCH 05/13] sched: Basic tracking of matching tasks vpillai
2020-03-04 16:59 ` [RFC PATCH 06/13] sched: Update core scheduler queue when taking cpu online/offline vpillai
2020-03-04 16:59 ` [RFC PATCH 07/13] sched: Add core wide task selection and scheduling vpillai
2020-04-14 13:35   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-16 23:32     ` Tim Chen
2020-04-17 10:57       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-16  3:39   ` Chen Yu
2020-04-16 19:59     ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2020-04-17 11:18     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-19 15:31       ` Chen Yu
2020-05-21 23:14   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-21 23:16     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-22  2:35     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-22  3:44       ` Aaron Lu
2020-05-22 20:13         ` Joel Fernandes
2020-03-04 16:59 ` [RFC PATCH 08/13] sched/fair: wrapper for cfs_rq->min_vruntime vpillai
2020-03-04 16:59 ` [RFC PATCH 09/13] sched/fair: core wide vruntime comparison vpillai
2020-04-14 13:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-15  3:34     ` Aaron Lu
2020-04-15  4:07       ` Aaron Lu
2020-04-15 21:24         ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2020-04-17  9:40           ` Aaron Lu
2020-04-20  8:07             ` [PATCH updated] sched/fair: core wide cfs task priority comparison Aaron Lu
2020-04-20 22:26               ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2020-04-21  2:51                 ` Aaron Lu
2020-04-24 14:24                   ` [PATCH updated v2] " Aaron Lu
2020-05-06 14:35                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-08  8:44                       ` Aaron Lu
2020-05-08  9:09                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-08 12:34                           ` Aaron Lu
2020-05-14 13:02                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-14 22:51                               ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2020-05-15 10:38                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-15 10:43                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-15 14:24                                   ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2020-05-16  3:42                               ` Aaron Lu [this message]
2020-05-22  9:40                                 ` Aaron Lu
2020-06-08  1:41                               ` Ning, Hongyu
2020-03-04 17:00 ` [RFC PATCH 10/13] sched: Trivial forced-newidle balancer vpillai
2020-03-04 17:00 ` [RFC PATCH 11/13] sched: migration changes for core scheduling vpillai
2020-06-12 13:21   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-06-12 21:32     ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2020-06-13  2:25       ` Joel Fernandes
2020-06-13 18:59         ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2020-06-15  2:05           ` Li, Aubrey
2020-03-04 17:00 ` [RFC PATCH 12/13] sched: cgroup tagging interface " vpillai
2020-06-26 15:06   ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2020-03-04 17:00 ` [RFC PATCH 13/13] sched: Debug bits vpillai
2020-03-04 17:36 ` [RFC PATCH 00/13] Core scheduling v5 Tim Chen
2020-03-04 17:42   ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2020-04-14 14:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-15 16:32   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-04-17 11:12     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-17 12:35       ` Alexander Graf
2020-04-17 13:08         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-18  2:25       ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-09 14:35   ` Dario Faggioli
     [not found] ` <38805656-2e2f-222a-c083-692f4b113313@linux.intel.com>
2020-05-09  3:39   ` Ning, Hongyu
2020-05-14 20:51     ` FW: " Gruza, Agata
2020-05-10 23:46 ` [PATCH RFC] Add support for core-wide protection of IRQ and softirq Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-05-11 13:49   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-11 14:54     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-20 22:26 ` [PATCH RFC] sched: Add a per-thread core scheduling interface Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-05-21  4:09   ` [PATCH RFC] sched: Add a per-thread core scheduling interface(Internet mail) benbjiang(蒋彪)
2020-05-21 13:49     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-21  8:51   ` [PATCH RFC] sched: Add a per-thread core scheduling interface Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-21 13:47     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-21 20:20       ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2020-05-22 12:59       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-22 21:35         ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-24 14:00           ` Phil Auld
2020-05-28 14:51             ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-28 17:01             ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-28 18:17               ` Phil Auld
2020-05-28 18:34                 ` Phil Auld
2020-05-28 18:23               ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-21 18:31   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-05-21 20:40     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-21 21:58       ` Jesse Barnes
2020-05-22 16:33         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-05-20 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC v2] Add support for core-wide protection of IRQ and softirq Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-05-20 22:48 ` [PATCH RFC] sched: Use sched-RCU in core-scheduling balancing logic Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-05-21 22:52   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-22  1:26     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-06-25 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH 00/13] Core scheduling v5 Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2020-06-26  1:47   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-06-26 14:36     ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2020-06-26 15:10       ` Joel Fernandes
2020-06-26 15:12         ` Joel Fernandes
2020-06-27 16:21         ` Joel Fernandes
2020-06-30 14:11         ` Phil Auld
2020-06-29 12:33   ` Li, Aubrey
2020-06-29 19:41     ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai

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