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From: Chris Down <chris-6Bi1550iOqEnzZ6mRAm98g@public.gmane.org>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Andrew Morton
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>,
	Cgroups <cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Kernel Team <kernel-team-b10kYP2dOMg@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm, memcg: reclaim more aggressively before high allocator throttling
Date: Thu, 28 May 2020 22:14:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200528211441.GA3410@chrisdown.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200528202944.GA76514-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>

Johannes Weiner writes:
>> I don't feel strongly either way, but current->memcg_nr_pages_over_high can
>> be very large for large allocations.
>>
>> That said, maybe we should just reclaim `max(SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX, current -
>> high)` for each loop? I agree that with this design it looks like perhaps we
>> don't need it any more.
>>
>> Johannes, what do you think?
>
>How about this:
>
>Reclaim memcg_nr_pages_over_high in the first iteration, then switch
>to SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX in the retries.
>
>This acknowledges that while the page allocator and memory.max reclaim
>every time an allocation is made, memory.high is currently batched and
>can have larger targets. We want the allocating thread to reclaim at
>least the batch size, but beyond that only what's necessary to prevent
>premature OOM or failing containment.
>
>Add a comment stating as much.
>
>Once we reclaim memory.high synchronously instead of batched, this
>exceptional handling is no longer needed and can be deleted again.
>
>Does that sound reasonable?

That sounds good to me, thanks. I'll change that in v2 soonish and update the 
changelog.

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From: Chris Down <chris@chrisdown.name>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Cgroups <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kernel Team <kernel-team@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm, memcg: reclaim more aggressively before high allocator throttling
Date: Thu, 28 May 2020 22:14:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200528211441.GA3410@chrisdown.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200528202944.GA76514@cmpxchg.org>

Johannes Weiner writes:
>> I don't feel strongly either way, but current->memcg_nr_pages_over_high can
>> be very large for large allocations.
>>
>> That said, maybe we should just reclaim `max(SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX, current -
>> high)` for each loop? I agree that with this design it looks like perhaps we
>> don't need it any more.
>>
>> Johannes, what do you think?
>
>How about this:
>
>Reclaim memcg_nr_pages_over_high in the first iteration, then switch
>to SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX in the retries.
>
>This acknowledges that while the page allocator and memory.max reclaim
>every time an allocation is made, memory.high is currently batched and
>can have larger targets. We want the allocating thread to reclaim at
>least the batch size, but beyond that only what's necessary to prevent
>premature OOM or failing containment.
>
>Add a comment stating as much.
>
>Once we reclaim memory.high synchronously instead of batched, this
>exceptional handling is no longer needed and can be deleted again.
>
>Does that sound reasonable?

That sounds good to me, thanks. I'll change that in v2 soonish and update the 
changelog.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-05-28 21:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-20 14:37 [PATCH] mm, memcg: reclaim more aggressively before high allocator throttling Chris Down
2020-05-20 14:37 ` Chris Down
     [not found] ` <20200520143712.GA749486-6Bi1550iOqEnzZ6mRAm98g@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-20 16:07   ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-20 16:07     ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-20 16:51     ` Johannes Weiner
2020-05-20 17:04       ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-20 17:51         ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]           ` <20200520175135.GA793901-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-21  7:32             ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-21  7:32               ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]               ` <20200521073245.GI6462-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-21 13:51                 ` Johannes Weiner
2020-05-21 13:51                   ` Johannes Weiner
2020-05-21 14:22                   ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]                   ` <20200521135152.GA810429-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-21 14:35                     ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-21 14:35                       ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                       ` <20200521143515.GU6462-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-21 15:02                         ` Chris Down
2020-05-21 15:02                           ` Chris Down
2020-05-21 16:38                         ` Johannes Weiner
2020-05-21 16:38                           ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]                           ` <20200521163833.GA813446-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-21 17:37                             ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-21 17:37                               ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                               ` <20200521173701.GX6462-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-21 18:45                                 ` Johannes Weiner
2020-05-21 18:45                                   ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]                                   ` <20200521184505.GA815980-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-28 16:31                                     ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-28 16:31                                       ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                                       ` <20200528163101.GJ27484-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-28 16:48                                         ` Chris Down
2020-05-28 16:48                                           ` Chris Down
     [not found]                                           ` <20200528164848.GB839178-6Bi1550iOqEnzZ6mRAm98g@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-29  7:31                                             ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-29  7:31                                               ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-29 10:08                                               ` Chris Down
     [not found]                                                 ` <20200529100858.GA98458-6Bi1550iOqEnzZ6mRAm98g@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-29 10:14                                                   ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-29 10:14                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-28 20:11                                         ` Johannes Weiner
2020-05-28 20:11                                           ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]     ` <20200520160756.GE6462-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-20 20:26       ` Chris Down
2020-05-20 20:26         ` Chris Down
     [not found]         ` <20200520202650.GB558281-6Bi1550iOqEnzZ6mRAm98g@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-21  7:19           ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-21  7:19             ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-21 11:27             ` Chris Down
     [not found]               ` <20200521112711.GA990580-6Bi1550iOqEnzZ6mRAm98g@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-21 12:04                 ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-21 12:04                   ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                   ` <20200521120455.GM6462-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-21 12:23                     ` Chris Down
2020-05-21 12:23                       ` Chris Down
     [not found]                       ` <20200521122327.GB990580-6Bi1550iOqEnzZ6mRAm98g@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-21 12:24                         ` Chris Down
2020-05-21 12:24                           ` Chris Down
2020-05-21 12:37                       ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-21 12:57                         ` Chris Down
     [not found]                           ` <20200521125759.GD990580-6Bi1550iOqEnzZ6mRAm98g@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-21 13:05                             ` Chris Down
2020-05-21 13:05                               ` Chris Down
     [not found]                               ` <20200521130530.GE990580-6Bi1550iOqEnzZ6mRAm98g@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-21 13:28                                 ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-21 13:28                                   ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-21 13:21                             ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-21 13:21                               ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                               ` <20200521132120.GR6462-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-21 13:41                                 ` Chris Down
2020-05-21 13:41                                   ` Chris Down
     [not found]                                   ` <20200521133324.GF990580-6Bi1550iOqEnzZ6mRAm98g@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-21 13:58                                     ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-21 13:58                                       ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-21 14:22                                       ` Chris Down
2020-05-21 12:28                 ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-21 12:28                   ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-28 18:02 ` Shakeel Butt
     [not found]   ` <CALvZod7rSeAKXKq_V0SggZWn4aL8pYWJiej4NdRd8MmuwUzPEw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-28 19:48     ` Chris Down
2020-05-28 19:48       ` Chris Down
     [not found]       ` <20200528194831.GA2017-6Bi1550iOqEnzZ6mRAm98g@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-28 20:29         ` Johannes Weiner
2020-05-28 20:29           ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]           ` <20200528202944.GA76514-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2020-05-28 21:02             ` Shakeel Butt
2020-05-28 21:02               ` Shakeel Butt
2020-05-28 21:14             ` Chris Down [this message]
2020-05-28 21:14               ` Chris Down
2020-05-29  7:25             ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-29  7:25               ` Michal Hocko

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