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Subject: Re: Good idea to rename files in include/uapi/ ?
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On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 11:08:08PM +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> 
> On Sunday 2020-06-14 22:19, David Howells wrote:
> >Alexander A. Klimov <grandmaster@al2klimov.de> wrote:
> >
> >> *Is it a good idea to rename files in include/uapi/ ?*
> >
> >Very likely not.  If programs out there are going to be built on a
> >case-sensitive filesystem (which happens all the time), they're going to break
> >if you rename the headers.  We're kind of stuck with them.
> 
> Netfilter has precedent for removing old headers, e.g.
> 7200135bc1e61f1437dc326ae2ef2f310c50b4eb's ipt_ULOG.h.

That's only because NFLOG has been there for ~10 years, so it was safe
to remove ULOG support.

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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 00:01:01 +0200
From: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
Subject: Re: Good idea to rename files in include/uapi/ ?
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On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 11:08:08PM +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> 
> On Sunday 2020-06-14 22:19, David Howells wrote:
> >Alexander A. Klimov <grandmaster@al2klimov.de> wrote:
> >
> >> *Is it a good idea to rename files in include/uapi/ ?*
> >
> >Very likely not.  If programs out there are going to be built on a
> >case-sensitive filesystem (which happens all the time), they're going to break
> >if you rename the headers.  We're kind of stuck with them.
> 
> Netfilter has precedent for removing old headers, e.g.
> 7200135bc1e61f1437dc326ae2ef2f310c50b4eb's ipt_ULOG.h.

That's only because NFLOG has been there for ~10 years, so it was safe
to remove ULOG support.