From: "J. Paul Reed" <preed@sigkill.com>
To: Andrew Ardill <andrew.ardill@gmail.com>
Cc: "Don Goodman-Wilson" <don@goodman-wilson.com>,
"Sérgio Augusto Vianna" <sergio.a.vianna@gmail.com>,
philipoakley@iee.email,
"Johannes Schindelin" <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
git <git@vger.kernel.org>, "Michal Suchánek" <msuchanek@suse.de>,
newren@gmail.com,
"brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>,
"Simon Pieters" <simon@bocoup.com>,
stolee@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Rename offensive terminology (master)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2020 21:45:33 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200615044533.GA24311@sigkill.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH5451n7e39ZCM4iJ4Ry=g7QkVYwFL-a=9CTVOifp+rcvb5i_g@mail.gmail.com>
Heya Andrew... turns out I read this list too, so... thanks for referencin'
all my work!
Some thoughts inline:
On 15 Jun 2020 at 13:52:50, Andrew Ardill arranged the bits on my disk to say:
[SNIP]
> Even if git borrowed 'master' from BitKeeper AND BitKeeper used it in
> a "Master and Slave" fashion, that doesn't mean that the person
> introducing it to git was using it in a "Master and Slave" fashion,
https://marc.info/?l=git&m=111968031816936&w=2
https://marc.info/?l=git&m=111634468526506&w=2
Oops.
> It's just as likely that the 'master' usage was common in the industry
Do you have any specific references to, specifically, common usage in the
industry, at that time?
> My conclusion?
>
> Of all the usages of master in BitKeeper, the overwhelming majority of
> them are of the "Master Copy" variant, consistent with how I and many
> other people I have seen comment understand gits usage of the term
> master.
See above.
> To reiterate my point at the top - I believe this information is
> irrelevant when deciding what git should do now, and my preference
> would be to have no default at all.
Cool. Sounds like we mostly agree...
-p
--
J. Paul Reed
https://jpaulreed.com
PGP: 0xDF8708F8
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-06-15 4:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 152+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-05-04 17:20 Rename offensive terminology (master) Simon Pieters
2020-05-04 17:43 ` Robert P. J. Day
2020-05-04 23:10 ` N6Ghost
2020-05-04 17:45 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-05-04 18:31 ` Simon Pieters
2020-05-04 17:53 ` Robert P. J. Day
2020-05-04 18:18 ` Randall S. Becker
2020-05-05 23:16 ` brian m. carlson
2020-06-09 15:16 ` Simon Pieters
2020-06-09 16:02 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-06-09 16:28 ` demerphq
2020-06-09 18:10 ` Johannes Sixt
2020-06-09 19:02 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-06-09 20:52 ` Simon Pieters
2020-06-09 21:03 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-06-09 21:29 ` Simon Pieters
2020-06-10 9:51 ` Robert P. J. Day
2020-06-10 11:16 ` Kevin Swinton
2020-06-10 12:18 ` Don Goodman-Wilson
2020-06-10 16:30 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-06-14 0:03 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-14 0:00 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-14 0:45 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-06-14 0:50 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-14 6:32 ` Don Goodman-Wilson
2020-06-14 6:34 ` Don Goodman-Wilson
2020-06-14 8:47 ` Sergey Lapin
2020-06-14 8:48 ` Sergey Lapin
2020-06-14 12:07 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-16 7:31 ` demerphq
2020-06-16 8:38 ` Oleg
2020-06-16 19:33 ` Elijah Newren
2020-06-17 1:17 ` Sergey Lapin
2020-06-17 7:45 ` Oleg
2020-06-16 10:04 ` Alex Smith
2020-06-16 11:29 ` Konstantin Tokarev
2020-06-16 11:39 ` Robert P. J. Day
2020-06-16 11:39 ` Oleg
2020-06-17 7:27 ` Sergey Organov
[not found] ` <c0c2d9ad-1d67-8ebe-0063-524005ca97fe@whinis.com>
2020-06-16 11:38 ` Whinis
2020-06-16 12:16 ` Oleg
2020-06-16 13:30 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-06-16 13:55 ` John Turner
2020-06-16 14:14 ` Michal Suchánek
2020-06-16 14:29 ` Whinis
2020-06-16 16:19 ` Alex Smith
2020-06-16 15:49 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-06-16 16:09 ` Whinis
2020-06-16 14:24 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-16 14:27 ` Oleg
2020-06-16 16:03 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-06-16 17:27 ` Oleg
2020-06-16 17:42 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-06-16 18:35 ` Sergey Lapin
2020-06-16 19:03 ` Oleg
2020-06-09 16:06 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-06-09 19:01 ` Don Goodman-Wilson
2020-06-14 0:05 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-14 19:08 ` brian m. carlson
2020-06-14 8:49 ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-06-14 19:17 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-15 2:16 ` Taylor Blau
2020-06-15 2:54 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-09 22:36 ` brian m. carlson
2020-06-16 8:50 ` Michal Suchánek
2020-06-10 21:30 ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-06-10 22:35 ` Edward Thomson
2020-06-10 22:51 ` brian m. carlson
2020-06-11 11:52 ` Michal Suchánek
2020-06-11 11:59 ` Don Goodman-Wilson
2020-06-11 12:52 ` Derrick Stolee
2020-06-11 15:14 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-06-14 2:59 ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-06-15 10:07 ` Michal Suchánek
2020-06-12 13:21 ` Philip Oakley
2020-06-14 0:41 ` Elijah Newren
2020-06-14 10:54 ` Philip Oakley
2020-06-14 12:20 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-14 13:58 ` Don Goodman-Wilson
2020-06-14 14:05 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-15 3:52 ` Andrew Ardill
2020-06-15 4:45 ` J. Paul Reed [this message]
2020-06-15 5:19 ` Andrew Ardill
2020-06-17 8:27 ` Michal Suchánek
2020-06-14 18:19 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-06-14 18:23 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-14 19:04 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-06-14 19:08 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-14 19:16 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-06-14 20:41 ` Philip Oakley
2020-06-16 7:36 ` demerphq
2020-06-16 7:43 ` Michal Suchánek
2020-06-16 8:01 ` demerphq
2020-06-16 8:59 ` Michal Suchánek
2020-06-17 19:56 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-06-17 20:10 ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-06-17 20:17 ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-06-18 7:57 ` demerphq
2020-06-18 8:38 ` Oleg
2020-06-18 10:17 ` demerphq
2020-06-18 15:23 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-06-18 7:40 ` demerphq
2020-06-18 18:04 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-06-14 21:06 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-06-14 21:15 ` Eric Wong
2020-06-14 21:39 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-06-15 18:07 ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-06-15 18:18 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
[not found] ` <CAAwdEzDgJuoQJAZsrT0piuZPVP6nJTSB9RCbcuXO03-BYTnmOQ@mail.gmail.com>
2020-06-15 19:37 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-15 19:50 ` Alexandru Pătrănescu
2020-06-15 20:44 ` Elijah Newren
2020-06-15 20:42 ` Randall S. Becker
2020-06-15 0:34 ` James Ramsay
2020-06-15 21:38 ` Elijah Newren
2020-06-15 21:46 ` Elijah Newren
2020-06-16 21:07 ` ZeeVriend
2020-06-17 7:49 ` Oleg
2020-06-17 20:48 ` ZeeVriend
2020-06-18 8:28 ` Oleg
2020-06-17 20:52 ` ZeeVriend
2020-06-13 23:56 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-13 23:53 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-14 14:59 ` Thomas Adam
2020-06-14 8:04 ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-06-14 15:13 ` Michael Felt (aixtools)
2020-06-14 8:27 ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-06-14 15:51 ` George Of The Jungle
2020-06-14 15:20 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-15 0:02 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-15 14:39 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-15 14:39 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-15 23:15 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-16 1:00 ` Fang-Pen Lin
2020-06-16 1:38 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-21 19:50 ` Social Justice Movements [was: Rename offensive terminology (master)] Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2020-06-23 23:21 ` Rename offensive terminology (master) Gunnar Liljas
2020-06-24 1:16 ` Whinis
2020-06-24 8:19 ` lego_12239
2020-06-26 10:08 ` Gunnar Liljas
2020-06-26 10:34 ` Oleg
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-06-14 15:09 Michael Felt (aixtools)
2020-06-15 21:05 frederik
2020-06-16 0:16 Abram Wiebe
2020-06-16 0:23 ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-06-16 12:54 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-06-16 15:53 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-17 11:34 Alastair Houghton
2020-06-17 11:49 ` Oleg
[not found] ` <CAGqqT2w=ntxd6RNkpy175TbgiudUSOc0tAPoDsbjv=4V+73cXw@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <CAGqqT2zFkCUTdUnzdp4oTR2cnxBpKeY-EZtxacLLVDsF8Jiekw@mail.gmail.com>
2020-06-17 12:27 ` Zac McChesney
[not found] <'CAOAHyQyn_ow7_nCJ+Jorr76_=1=_kuBAD1KhqReqVfRQQbmgiw@mail.gmail.com'>
2020-06-26 18:37 ` Neil Stoddard
2020-06-29 8:59 ` Michal Suchánek
2020-08-08 3:46 Jefferson Carpenter
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