From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23110C433E1 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 10:23:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fraxinus.osuosl.org (smtp4.osuosl.org [140.211.166.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E0C432074F for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 10:23:00 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="H4G5rNnJ" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org E0C432074F Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=linuxfoundation.org Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=ksummit-discuss-bounces@lists.linuxfoundation.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fraxinus.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B15D886DF1; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 10:23:00 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org Received: from fraxinus.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QSTPhPhkUy3R; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 10:23:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lists.linuxfoundation.org (lf-lists.osuosl.org [140.211.9.56]) by fraxinus.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47EE986CDD; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 10:23:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lf-lists.osuosl.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EA3CC0891; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 10:23:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fraxinus.osuosl.org (smtp4.osuosl.org [140.211.166.137]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52786C016F; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 10:22:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fraxinus.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ACBA86CF8; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 10:22:59 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org Received: from fraxinus.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6ifArYMAv5Ew; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 10:22:58 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by fraxinus.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 009A386CDD; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 10:22:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (83-86-89-107.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl [83.86.89.107]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3834720739; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 10:22:57 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=default; t=1594030977; bh=hyubO64upSNhqMywGjKfEDtfPQCLU+NfTnStguiiInQ=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=H4G5rNnJWpkPLV7AlSxzZjB4OL/dkUxu4G2J3uDie1OFt2hgg4W+EoO2DFQTwNTP2 44OhXBEGR0OXw7WB4966lqDNIa3Il4jASWf2p4v/3GYBEv50TfM06jQgqUNNEZ/zYO ucyO/bNVvwYYAQpaQdrBfkr9cYGkIFT3bGPnJRpE= Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2020 12:22:54 +0200 From: Greg Kroah-Hartman To: Geert Uytterhoeven Message-ID: <20200706102254.GA10206@kroah.com> References: <159389297140.2210796.13590142254668787525.stgit@dwillia2-desk3.amr.corp.intel.com> <87h7ul15le.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name> <20200706072221.GA1947246@kroah.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: Chris Mason , tech-board-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, ksummit , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH] CodingStyle: Inclusive Terminology X-BeenThere: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ksummit-discuss-bounces@lists.linuxfoundation.org Sender: "Ksummit-discuss" On Mon, Jul 06, 2020 at 09:53:55AM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 9:22 AM Greg Kroah-Hartman > wrote: > > look at the USB spec for an example of these terms being used in this > > way for many decades. > > And when does the "gadget" enter the show? ;-) It doesn't, as the USB spec does not describe that in any reasonable way for us to use when dealing with drivers for both "types" of devices. So we came up with the word "gadget" on purpose to be able to talk about those things in a specific manner. thanks, greg k-h _______________________________________________ Ksummit-discuss mailing list Ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ksummit-discuss From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=default; t=1594030977; bh=hyubO64upSNhqMywGjKfEDtfPQCLU+NfTnStguiiInQ=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=H4G5rNnJWpkPLV7AlSxzZjB4OL/dkUxu4G2J3uDie1OFt2hgg4W+EoO2DFQTwNTP2 44OhXBEGR0OXw7WB4966lqDNIa3Il4jASWf2p4v/3GYBEv50TfM06jQgqUNNEZ/zYO ucyO/bNVvwYYAQpaQdrBfkr9cYGkIFT3bGPnJRpE= Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2020 12:22:54 +0200 From: Greg Kroah-Hartman Message-ID: <20200706102254.GA10206@kroah.com> References: <159389297140.2210796.13590142254668787525.stgit@dwillia2-desk3.amr.corp.intel.com> <87h7ul15le.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name> <20200706072221.GA1947246@kroah.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [Tech-board-discuss] [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH] CodingStyle: Inclusive Terminology List-Id: Public TAB discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Geert Uytterhoeven Cc: Chris Mason , tech-board-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, NeilBrown , ksummit , Linux Kernel Mailing List On Mon, Jul 06, 2020 at 09:53:55AM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 9:22 AM Greg Kroah-Hartman > wrote: > > look at the USB spec for an example of these terms being used in this > > way for many decades. > > And when does the "gadget" enter the show? ;-) It doesn't, as the USB spec does not describe that in any reasonable way for us to use when dealing with drivers for both "types" of devices. So we came up with the word "gadget" on purpose to be able to talk about those things in a specific manner. thanks, greg k-h From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=3.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_HIGH,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD425C433DF for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 10:22:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8CA320760 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 10:22:59 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=default; t=1594030979; bh=hyubO64upSNhqMywGjKfEDtfPQCLU+NfTnStguiiInQ=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:List-ID:From; b=vYNLwoY0aNMfHzYwZrJsSY7+wHJHkxPJ9Pa1hZynTiEGCvSLQ4mgg82K1Fb7QvBA+ 08nDq/yXFTsbxSa8FwrdyCx8rBoQsciCumT9K4zDzn0VhRrrrfdUb4f1n8s2se2XI3 biSK9nyLQNlJbm9T2cqRrW4MWsjrIqHzyZFD6gR4= Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728848AbgGFKW6 (ORCPT ); Mon, 6 Jul 2020 06:22:58 -0400 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]:49326 "EHLO mail.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1728578AbgGFKW6 (ORCPT ); Mon, 6 Jul 2020 06:22:58 -0400 Received: from localhost (83-86-89-107.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl [83.86.89.107]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3834720739; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 10:22:57 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=default; t=1594030977; bh=hyubO64upSNhqMywGjKfEDtfPQCLU+NfTnStguiiInQ=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=H4G5rNnJWpkPLV7AlSxzZjB4OL/dkUxu4G2J3uDie1OFt2hgg4W+EoO2DFQTwNTP2 44OhXBEGR0OXw7WB4966lqDNIa3Il4jASWf2p4v/3GYBEv50TfM06jQgqUNNEZ/zYO ucyO/bNVvwYYAQpaQdrBfkr9cYGkIFT3bGPnJRpE= Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2020 12:22:54 +0200 From: Greg Kroah-Hartman To: Geert Uytterhoeven Cc: NeilBrown , ksummit , Linux Kernel Mailing List , tech-board-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, Chris Mason Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH] CodingStyle: Inclusive Terminology Message-ID: <20200706102254.GA10206@kroah.com> References: <159389297140.2210796.13590142254668787525.stgit@dwillia2-desk3.amr.corp.intel.com> <87h7ul15le.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name> <20200706072221.GA1947246@kroah.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Jul 06, 2020 at 09:53:55AM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 9:22 AM Greg Kroah-Hartman > wrote: > > look at the USB spec for an example of these terms being used in this > > way for many decades. > > And when does the "gadget" enter the show? ;-) It doesn't, as the USB spec does not describe that in any reasonable way for us to use when dealing with drivers for both "types" of devices. So we came up with the word "gadget" on purpose to be able to talk about those things in a specific manner. thanks, greg k-h