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From: Phil Sutter <phil@nwl.cc>
To: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
Cc: netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [iptables PATCH] nft: Eliminate table list from cache
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 13:31:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200731113143.GD13697@orbyte.nwl.cc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200731112537.GA10915@salvia>

On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 01:25:37PM +0200, Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 01:21:34PM +0200, Phil Sutter wrote:
> > Hi Pablo,
> > 
> > On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 09:25:54PM +0200, Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 03:57:10PM +0200, Phil Sutter wrote:
> > > > The full list of tables in kernel is not relevant, only those used by
> > > > iptables-nft and for those, knowing if they exist or not is sufficient.
> > > > For holding that information, the already existing 'table' array in
> > > > nft_cache suits well.
> > > > 
> > > > Consequently, nft_table_find() merely checks if the new 'exists' boolean
> > > > is true or not and nft_for_each_table() iterates over the builtin_table
> > > > array in nft_handle, additionally checking the boolean in cache for
> > > > whether to skip the entry or not.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Phil Sutter <phil@nwl.cc>
> > > > ---
> > > >  iptables/nft-cache.c | 73 +++++++++++---------------------------------
> > > >  iptables/nft-cache.h |  9 ------
> > > >  iptables/nft.c       | 55 +++++++++------------------------
> > > >  iptables/nft.h       |  2 +-
> > > >  4 files changed, 34 insertions(+), 105 deletions(-)
> > > 
> > > This diffstat looks interesting :-)
> > 
> > As promised, I wanted to leverage your change for further optimization,
> > but ended up optimizing your code out along with the old one. :D
> > 
> > > One question:
> > > 
> > >         c->table[i].exists = true;
> > > 
> > > then we assume this table is still in the kernel and we don't recheck?
> > 
> > Upon each COMMIT line, nft_action() calls nft_release_cache(). This will
> > also reset the 'exists' value to false.
> 
> Thanks for explaining.
> 
> I think the chain cache can also be converted to use linux list,
> right?

Yes, that's right. I did that already and it looks fine, but wanted to
clean up a bit more before sending a v2.

> > > I mean, if you pipe command to an open process running
> > > iptables-restore (which has been the recommended interface for years
> > > to avoid of the overhead of system() invocation and to ensure atomic
> > > updates), is there any cache this new approach might get out of sync?
> > 
> > This is not just a problem of iptables-restore running in a pipe -
> > restoring a large ruleset (or just pure coincidence) could lead to the
> > same result.
> > 
> > Playing with 'iptables-nft-restore --noflush' reading from stdin and
> > calling 'nft flush ruleset' in a second shell right before entering
> > 'COMMIT' leads to funny errors. This is not related to the table list
> > elimination though. I'll investigate.
> 
> There is a generation number that the userspace sends to the kernel to
> validate that it's working with a stale cache to retry. This should
> help catch the interference scenario to basically (transparently)
> restart from scratch.

Yes, but it shouldn't be needed in my case. I feed 'iptables-nft-restore
--noflush' with:

| *filter
| foo [0:0]
| COMMIT
| *filter
| foo [0:0]

The COMMIT creates table filter, base chains and chain foo. Then I run
'nft flush ruleset' and return to the shell and enter 'COMMIT'. This
should trigger a call to nft_prepare() which fetches the cache.

Cheers, Phil

      parent reply	other threads:[~2020-07-31 11:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-30 13:57 [iptables PATCH] nft: Eliminate table list from cache Phil Sutter
2020-07-30 19:25 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2020-07-31 11:21   ` Phil Sutter
2020-07-31 11:25     ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2020-07-31 11:26       ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2020-07-31 11:36         ` Phil Sutter
2020-07-31 11:31       ` Phil Sutter [this message]

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