From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
<linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org>,
Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/1] tpm: add sysfs exports for all banks of PCR registers
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 13:46:02 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200818164602.GZ1152540@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200818162630.GE137138@linux.intel.com>
On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 07:26:30PM +0300, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 07:19:57PM +0300, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 07:12:09PM +0300, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 02:35:06PM -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > > Create sysfs per hash groups with 24 PCR files in them one group,
> > > > named pcr-<hash>, for each agile hash of the TPM. The files are
> > > > plugged in to a PCR read function which is TPM version agnostic, so
> > > > this works also for TPM 1.2 but the hash is only sha1 in that case.
> > > >
> > > > Note: the macros used to create the hashes emit spurious checkpatch
> > > > warnings. Do not try to "fix" them as checkpatch recommends, otherwise
> > > > they'll break.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
> > > > Reviewed-by: Jerry Snitselaar <jsnitsel@redhat.com>
> > > > Tested-by: Thiago Jung Bauermann <bauerman@linux.ibm.com>
> > >
> > > I have hard time understanding why this is required.
> > >
> > > You can grab the information through /dev/tpm0 just fine.
> >
> > I just think it is principally wrong to add sysfs files if they don't
> > have any measurable value other than perhaps some convenience.
> >
> > It is trival to write only a libc dependent program that outputs PCRs.
> >
> > I think this is essentially an user space problem that is getting sorted
> > out with kernel code.
>
> Jason, what do you make of this? I recall that it was you who I
> discussed with about this topic when TPM 2.0 support was first
> upstreamed.
TPM 2.0 broke all the userspace so it made sense to get rid of the
non-conforming sysfs files from TPM v1.x time as part of the userspace
API. That was the main reason to not continue forward with PCR in
userspace.
As far as doing it properly as this patch does.. I agree with you that
sysfs files should have some reason to be added, espcially if it
causes quite big code cost as this does. eg to drive a udev rule
decision.
Why is PCRs so special it needs to be in sysfs? What is userspace
going to do with this information?
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-08-18 16:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-08-17 21:35 [PATCH v4 0/1] add sysfs exports for TPM 2 PCR registers James Bottomley
2020-08-17 21:35 ` [PATCH v4 1/1] tpm: add sysfs exports for all banks of " James Bottomley
2020-08-18 16:12 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-18 16:19 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-18 16:26 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-18 16:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2020-08-18 18:26 ` Mimi Zohar
2020-08-18 18:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-08-18 18:55 ` Mimi Zohar
2020-08-19 12:02 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-08-19 13:27 ` Mimi Zohar
2020-08-19 14:09 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-08-19 14:53 ` Mimi Zohar
2020-08-19 14:55 ` Mimi Zohar
2020-08-19 22:16 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-19 22:48 ` Jerry Snitselaar
2020-08-19 23:26 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-08-20 15:46 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-19 14:56 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2020-08-19 22:15 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-19 15:17 ` James Bottomley
2020-08-19 16:18 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-08-19 16:57 ` Mimi Zohar
2020-08-19 17:17 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-08-19 20:09 ` James Bottomley
2020-08-19 23:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-08-20 16:14 ` James Bottomley
2020-08-20 16:55 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2020-08-21 17:41 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-21 19:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-08-24 19:44 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-24 20:20 ` James Bottomley
2020-08-25 15:27 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-25 15:33 ` James Bottomley
2020-08-26 13:15 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-26 13:19 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-24 21:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-08-19 22:14 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-18 19:03 ` James Bottomley
2020-08-19 22:13 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-19 22:01 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-18 16:44 ` James Bottomley
2020-08-18 17:17 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-08-18 18:49 ` James Bottomley
2020-08-19 21:53 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-19 22:46 ` James Bottomley
2020-08-20 15:22 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-19 21:33 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-09-14 17:41 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-09-14 19:19 ` James Bottomley
2020-09-15 11:22 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-10-08 11:45 ` Petr Vorel
2020-10-08 14:29 ` James Bottomley
2020-10-09 16:12 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
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