From: Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>,
Nathaniel McCallum <npmccallum@redhat.com>,
Cedric Xing <cedric.xing@intel.com>,
Jethro Beekman <jethro@fortanix.com>,
linux-sgx@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 4/4] x86/vdso: x86/sgx: Allow the user to exit the vDSO loop on interrupts
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 10:31:54 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200818173154.GH15390@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrVRAdzFcJOJN6oU1F7hC57zYSmFZi6y2DwhU0sd27FJjQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 10:15:49AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 9:24 PM Sean Christopherson
> <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > Allow userspace to exit the vDSO on interrupts that are acknowledged
> > while the enclave is active. This allows the user's runtime to switch
> > contexts at opportune times without additional overhead, e.g. when using
> > an M:N threading model (where M user threads run N TCSs, with N > M).
>
> This is IMO rather odd. We don't support this type of notification on
> interrupts for normal user code. The fact user code can detect
> interrupts during enclave execution is IMO an oddity of SGX, and I
> have asked Intel to consider replacing the AEX mechanism with
> something more transparent to user mode. If this ever happens, this
> mechanism is toast.
>
> Even without architecture changes, building a *reliable* M:N threading
> mechanism on top of this will be difficult or impossible, as there is
> no particular guarantee that a thread will get timing interrupts at
> all or that these interrupts will get lucky and hit enclave code, thus
> triggering an AEX. We certainly don't, and probably never will,
> support any corresponding feature for non-enclave code.
>
> So this seems like an odd, and possibly unsupportable, feature to add.
I 100% agree that allowing the user to act on interrupts is weird/fragile.
I'll happily kill this off if there's an "official" NAK, but I wanted to
force the issue so that we're not stuck in limbo wondering whether or not
this should be supported.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-08-18 17:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-08-18 4:24 [RFC PATCH 0/4] x86/vdso: x86/sgx: Rework SGX vDSO API Sean Christopherson
2020-08-18 4:24 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] x86/vdso: x86/sgx: Explicitly force 8-byte CMP for detecting user handler Sean Christopherson
2020-08-18 16:46 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-20 11:13 ` Jethro Beekman
2020-08-18 4:24 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] x86/vdso: x86/sgx: Rework __vdso_sgx_enter_enclave() API Sean Christopherson
2020-08-18 16:57 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-20 11:23 ` Jethro Beekman
2020-08-24 13:36 ` Jethro Beekman
2020-08-24 19:49 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-09-04 10:25 ` Sean Christopherson
2020-09-04 13:36 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-09-04 16:01 ` Sean Christopherson
2020-08-24 23:54 ` Sean Christopherson
2020-08-25 7:36 ` Jethro Beekman
2020-08-25 7:38 ` Sean Christopherson
2020-08-25 7:41 ` Jethro Beekman
2020-08-26 20:16 ` Sean Christopherson
2020-08-26 19:27 ` Xing, Cedric
2020-08-26 20:15 ` Sean Christopherson
2020-08-26 23:26 ` Xing, Cedric
2020-09-04 9:52 ` Sean Christopherson
2020-08-27 8:58 ` Jethro Beekman
2020-08-26 20:20 ` Sean Christopherson
2020-08-26 20:55 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-08-27 13:35 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-18 4:24 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] x86/vdso: x86/sgx: Introduce dedicated SGX exit reasons for vDSO Sean Christopherson
2020-08-18 16:58 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-20 11:13 ` Jethro Beekman
2020-08-18 4:24 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] x86/vdso: x86/sgx: Allow the user to exit the vDSO loop on interrupts Sean Christopherson
2020-08-18 17:00 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-18 17:15 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-08-18 17:31 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2020-08-18 19:05 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-08-19 14:21 ` Jethro Beekman
2020-08-19 15:02 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-08-20 11:20 ` Jethro Beekman
2020-08-20 17:44 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-08-20 17:53 ` Jethro Beekman
2020-08-22 21:55 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-08-24 13:36 ` Jethro Beekman
2020-08-26 18:32 ` Sean Christopherson
2020-08-26 19:09 ` Xing, Cedric
2020-08-27 8:57 ` Jethro Beekman
2020-08-20 11:13 ` Jethro Beekman
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