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From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	Allen Pais <allen.lkml@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] linux/kernel.h: add container_from()
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 22:36:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200827213636.GF1236603@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=whDhHWQo_QjZp36=x=GLMGOJ2xnfsUk9xkUuWRz=i9gOg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 01:46:33PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> You really have to pick some pretty excessive type names (or variable
> names) to get close to 80 characters. Again, to pick an example:
> 
>         struct timer_group_priv *priv = container_of(handle,
>                         struct timer_group_priv, timer[handle->num]);
> 
> ends up being long even if you were to split it, but that funky
> container_from() wouldn't have helped the real problem - the fact that
> the above is complex and nasty.
> 
> And I had to _search_ for that example. All the normal cases of
> split-line container-of's were due to doing it with the declaration,
> or beause the first argument ended up being an expression in itself
> and the nested expressions made it more complex.

Speaking of searching, this kind of typeof use is, IMO, actively
harmful - it makes finding the places where we might get from
e.g. linked list to containing objects much harder.  container_of
(unless combined with obfuscating use of typeof()) at least gives
you a chance to grep - struct foo *not* followed by '*' is a pattern
that doesn't give too many false positives.  This one, OTOH, is
essentially impossible to grep for.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-27 21:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-27  1:36 [PATCH] linux/kernel.h: add container_from() Allen Pais
2020-08-27  2:31 ` Kees Cook
2020-08-27 12:19   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-08-27 17:50     ` Kees Cook
2020-08-27 18:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-08-27 18:32   ` James Bottomley
2020-08-27 18:40     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-08-27 18:48       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-08-27 19:28         ` Kees Cook
2020-08-27 20:46           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-08-27 21:36             ` Al Viro [this message]
2020-08-27 22:14               ` Kees Cook
2020-08-28  7:09                 ` Allen
2020-08-28  7:07             ` Allen
2020-08-27 18:07 ` Rasmus Villemoes

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