From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 801ACC433DB for ; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 22:09:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38C87207D3 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 22:09:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726617AbgISWJc (ORCPT ); Sat, 19 Sep 2020 18:09:32 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:38524 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726582AbgISWJc (ORCPT ); Sat, 19 Sep 2020 18:09:32 -0400 Received: from ZenIV.linux.org.uk (zeniv.linux.org.uk [IPv6:2002:c35c:fd02::1]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4961DC0613CE; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 15:09:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from viro by ZenIV.linux.org.uk with local (Exim 4.92.3 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1kJl2m-001ygq-2b; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 22:09:20 +0000 Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2020 23:09:20 +0100 From: Al Viro To: Christoph Hellwig Cc: Andrew Morton , Jens Axboe , Arnd Bergmann , David Howells , linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mips@vger.kernel.org, linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-aio@kvack.org, io-uring@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, keyrings@vger.kernel.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/9] kernel: add a PF_FORCE_COMPAT flag Message-ID: <20200919220920.GI3421308@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> References: <20200918124533.3487701-1-hch@lst.de> <20200918124533.3487701-2-hch@lst.de> <20200918134012.GY3421308@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20200918134406.GA17064@lst.de> <20200918135822.GZ3421308@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20200918151615.GA23432@lst.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200918151615.GA23432@lst.de> Sender: Al Viro Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: io-uring@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 05:16:15PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 02:58:22PM +0100, Al Viro wrote: > > Said that, why not provide a variant that would take an explicit > > "is it compat" argument and use it there? And have the normal > > one pass in_compat_syscall() to that... > > That would help to not introduce a regression with this series yes. > But it wouldn't fix existing bugs when io_uring is used to access > read or write methods that use in_compat_syscall(). One example that > I recently ran into is drivers/scsi/sg.c. So screw such read/write methods - don't use them with io_uring. That, BTW, is one of the reasons I'm sceptical about burying the decisions deep into the callchain - we don't _want_ different data layouts on read/write depending upon the 32bit vs. 64bit caller, let alone the pointer-chasing garbage that is /dev/sg. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Al Viro Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2020 22:09:20 +0000 Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/9] kernel: add a PF_FORCE_COMPAT flag Message-Id: <20200919220920.GI3421308@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: References: <20200918124533.3487701-1-hch@lst.de> <20200918124533.3487701-2-hch@lst.de> <20200918134012.GY3421308@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20200918134406.GA17064@lst.de> <20200918135822.GZ3421308@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20200918151615.GA23432@lst.de> In-Reply-To: <20200918151615.GA23432@lst.de> To: Christoph Hellwig Cc: Andrew Morton , Jens Axboe , Arnd Bergmann , David Howells , linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mips@vger.kernel.org, linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-aio@kvack.org, io-uring@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, keyrings@vger.kernel.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 05:16:15PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 02:58:22PM +0100, Al Viro wrote: > > Said that, why not provide a variant that would take an explicit > > "is it compat" argument and use it there? And have the normal > > one pass in_compat_syscall() to that... > > That would help to not introduce a regression with this series yes. > But it wouldn't fix existing bugs when io_uring is used to access > read or write methods that use in_compat_syscall(). One example that > I recently ran into is drivers/scsi/sg.c. So screw such read/write methods - don't use them with io_uring. That, BTW, is one of the reasons I'm sceptical about burying the decisions deep into the callchain - we don't _want_ different data layouts on read/write depending upon the 32bit vs. 64bit caller, let alone the pointer-chasing garbage that is /dev/sg. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D087C433DB for ; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 22:11:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lists.ozlabs.org (lists.ozlabs.org [203.11.71.2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 65014207D3 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 22:11:18 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 65014207D3 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=zeniv.linux.org.uk Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=linuxppc-dev-bounces+linuxppc-dev=archiver.kernel.org@lists.ozlabs.org Received: from bilbo.ozlabs.org (lists.ozlabs.org [IPv6:2401:3900:2:1::3]) by lists.ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Bv4fW4J2mzDqvg for ; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 08:11:15 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: lists.ozlabs.org; spf=none (no SPF record) smtp.mailfrom=ftp.linux.org.uk (client-ip=2002:c35c:fd02::1; helo=zeniv.linux.org.uk; envelope-from=viro@ftp.linux.org.uk; receiver=) Authentication-Results: lists.ozlabs.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=zeniv.linux.org.uk Received: from ZenIV.linux.org.uk (zeniv.linux.org.uk [IPv6:2002:c35c:fd02::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by lists.ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Bv4cm4xSyzDqlw for ; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 08:09:42 +1000 (AEST) Received: from viro by ZenIV.linux.org.uk with local (Exim 4.92.3 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1kJl2m-001ygq-2b; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 22:09:20 +0000 Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2020 23:09:20 +0100 From: Al Viro To: Christoph Hellwig Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/9] kernel: add a PF_FORCE_COMPAT flag Message-ID: <20200919220920.GI3421308@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> References: <20200918124533.3487701-1-hch@lst.de> <20200918124533.3487701-2-hch@lst.de> <20200918134012.GY3421308@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20200918134406.GA17064@lst.de> <20200918135822.GZ3421308@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20200918151615.GA23432@lst.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200918151615.GA23432@lst.de> X-BeenThere: linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Linux on PowerPC Developers Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: linux-aio@kvack.org, linux-mips@vger.kernel.org, David Howells , linux-mm@kvack.org, keyrings@vger.kernel.org, sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org, Arnd Bergmann , linux-block@vger.kernel.org, io-uring@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, Jens Axboe , linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton , linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org Errors-To: linuxppc-dev-bounces+linuxppc-dev=archiver.kernel.org@lists.ozlabs.org Sender: "Linuxppc-dev" On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 05:16:15PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 02:58:22PM +0100, Al Viro wrote: > > Said that, why not provide a variant that would take an explicit > > "is it compat" argument and use it there? And have the normal > > one pass in_compat_syscall() to that... > > That would help to not introduce a regression with this series yes. > But it wouldn't fix existing bugs when io_uring is used to access > read or write methods that use in_compat_syscall(). One example that > I recently ran into is drivers/scsi/sg.c. So screw such read/write methods - don't use them with io_uring. That, BTW, is one of the reasons I'm sceptical about burying the decisions deep into the callchain - we don't _want_ different data layouts on read/write depending upon the 32bit vs. 64bit caller, let alone the pointer-chasing garbage that is /dev/sg. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.7 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 897C8C433DB for ; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 22:11:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from merlin.infradead.org (merlin.infradead.org [205.233.59.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D343207D3 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 22:11:16 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=lists.infradead.org header.i=@lists.infradead.org header.b="QkpKmCS+" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 1D343207D3 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=zeniv.linux.org.uk Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-arm-kernel-bounces+linux-arm-kernel=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lists.infradead.org; s=merlin.20170209; h=Sender:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:Cc:List-Subscribe:List-Help:List-Post:List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe:List-Id:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID: Subject:To:From:Date:Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Owner; bh=T3EDnvYfQZvpIixOeDvqkFtn0toZDfKTjMWA+ioXj18=; b=QkpKmCS+W4HjyJ48fzjMt5Bmy 06x0jVGPxtjZ7nTySEAlNNwtTA2epYvWhHkaCX/mqaDXqf3015/oqFy5r9FPNINwgmrB/06t3jmtA Tokudjhd0k7t5PsEWvxuvAnpSJFUdN+DX2a5RkUMoyg2hUrw3UWtoyXk06yGDIHTZkhgDNJhLZMlm Lz61dFBXO6bpjzBF2Lo2wpzYnKThkNJUA/9+hrAMs+XSdYk9092bPhb9y7AXhSMDu/zgMHBjce2je vwT9CT9vceT1JGmcfpswgpnRIL6lbkD90/NZozw+mWxuqiH1mMBljVrp1UTNmUIDveltY6L4aVKBn LwQ33bgrQ==; Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=merlin.infradead.org) by merlin.infradead.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92.3 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1kJl2x-0002wa-Kw; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 22:09:31 +0000 Received: from [2002:c35c:fd02::1] (helo=ZenIV.linux.org.uk) by merlin.infradead.org with esmtps (Exim 4.92.3 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1kJl2u-0002wB-Nt for linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 22:09:30 +0000 Received: from viro by ZenIV.linux.org.uk with local (Exim 4.92.3 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1kJl2m-001ygq-2b; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 22:09:20 +0000 Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2020 23:09:20 +0100 From: Al Viro To: Christoph Hellwig Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/9] kernel: add a PF_FORCE_COMPAT flag Message-ID: <20200919220920.GI3421308@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> References: <20200918124533.3487701-1-hch@lst.de> <20200918124533.3487701-2-hch@lst.de> <20200918134012.GY3421308@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20200918134406.GA17064@lst.de> <20200918135822.GZ3421308@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20200918151615.GA23432@lst.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200918151615.GA23432@lst.de> X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.8.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20200919_180928_795293_0B9B6642 X-CRM114-Status: GOOD ( 16.89 ) X-BeenThere: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: linux-aio@kvack.org, linux-mips@vger.kernel.org, David Howells , linux-mm@kvack.org, keyrings@vger.kernel.org, sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org, Arnd Bergmann , linux-block@vger.kernel.org, io-uring@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, Jens Axboe , linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton , linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "linux-arm-kernel" Errors-To: linux-arm-kernel-bounces+linux-arm-kernel=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 05:16:15PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 02:58:22PM +0100, Al Viro wrote: > > Said that, why not provide a variant that would take an explicit > > "is it compat" argument and use it there? And have the normal > > one pass in_compat_syscall() to that... > > That would help to not introduce a regression with this series yes. > But it wouldn't fix existing bugs when io_uring is used to access > read or write methods that use in_compat_syscall(). One example that > I recently ran into is drivers/scsi/sg.c. So screw such read/write methods - don't use them with io_uring. That, BTW, is one of the reasons I'm sceptical about burying the decisions deep into the callchain - we don't _want_ different data layouts on read/write depending upon the 32bit vs. 64bit caller, let alone the pointer-chasing garbage that is /dev/sg. _______________________________________________ linux-arm-kernel mailing list linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel